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We brought you in here, hopefully we were going to kill that public land sale deal from the big beautiful bill, and we did it, before we even got you in here.
So global 17 million.
So you were off by a few hundred million.
Yeah, a few hundred million.
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I think the real issue is the people in America that don't experience it and don't go there and don't know how insanely unique this situation is.
Where are we going with this?
Like, I don't know how to say Chamath's last name.
Is that how you say it?
Even he was tweeting, this is a great deal.
Sell the land and we'll make some money.
What the fuck are you talking about, man?
This was an incredible gift that they gave us when they set America up this way.
Going forward in the future, how do we make sure that this never happens again?
Do we have to just keep doing this every few years when it comes up?
So it's really interesting when you see these bills.
Because these bills are like, I think they read the entire bill on the floor and it took 14 hours and no one was there.
They just read it to an empty audience because nobody sat around for 14 hours.
So what was it, 900 pages?
It's just like, how are you signing off on things that I know you're not reading?
Like, how crazy is that?
That this is a part of our process of government.
Is that they pass these bills that have all sorts of weird shit piled into them.
Good things and bad things all together.
And you have to figure out, like, how much of the bad stuff do you allow because you want the good stuff?
And they all have to make these weird, shady fucking deals.
So when he revised it, what were the revisions and why did he put those revisions in?
Which would be how many acres all told?
Yeah, so somewhere in between here.
That's such a crazy piece of language.
Or far away and hard to manage.
Let's explain corner crossing to people.
So what corner crossing is, is like say if there's an enormous piece of public land, but the only way you can get to it is to cross over a very small corner of private land.
For the longest time, that was prohibited and you would get arrested.
You'd get arrested for trespassing.
And we're talking about like a couple of feet.
The crazy thing is like you could legitimately do it in a hop.
So you would never have stepped foot at all.
We're not talking about like a football field that you have to cross.
No, we're talking about like a couple inches.
So those little tiny spots in the corner, you were not supposed to cross.
That is so bananas that that was a real issue.
That's the corner right there.
Like that little spot, no trespassing.
That little tiny gate is all you need.
Those two posts that are in the ground, those two signs to prevent people from accessing land that's theirs.
So that is where the corner is.
So if you go through that little thing, that little area right there, you're breaking the law, which is fucking insane.
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Well, it's also today, I could imagine how a long time ago you would get a lot of confusion and it would lead to people trespassing accidentally on public land or on private land, rather, because we're looking at maps, right?
And people would be 100 yards to the left, 100 yards to the right, and maybe not good navigators.
But now, when you have things like GoHunt, Onyx, Spartan Forge, all these apps that hunters use now that use GPS, you're 100% accurate.
They just don't want hunters on their property.
People that have a lot of land for whatever reason, I guess it's how they acquire a lot of land in the first place.
A lot of them are fucking greedy.
Well, there's some strategic purchasers, right?
But that's a greedy thing.
You have 800 acres, and there's this little sliver, and you're like, no.
What is going on with that American... Prairie?
Yeah, the American prairie thing.
So the kiosk is just set up as you get there, and you just put in your name and what time you go in there.
Do you have to have any kind of ID that you put in there?
So you have to be experienced.
You have to know what you're doing.
And if they do that widespread, like what is the ultimate goal?
Like how much land are we talking about?
And like, are they bringing animals in or are they allowing the existing animals to breed?
And like, how are they doing it?
Have you ever read Dan Flores' piece on American buffalo?
Buffalo ecology, buffalo diplomacy.
Yeah, that's great too.
What his theory is, and I think it's valid, that the time where they saw millions of buffalo was because the Native Americans had been wiped out by disease.
This is the idea, is that there was never a time where there were that many bison.
And the reason why there were that many bison was because the Native Americans weren't hunting them anymore because 90% of them were wiped out by disease.
That's why when they made their way across, and I guess it was like the early 1800s.
Oh, like Lewis and Clark.
big total Buffalo population number that always gets thrown out there Was really on the landscape right like why wasn't there a balance of predator and prey where there always is if it was really natural Mm-hmm right it does make sense.
Before people is the dumbest fucking argument ever.
They were here first.
Well, this is the argument they use with wolves.
You know, like they were here first.
Like, shut the fuck up.
Just shut the fuck up.
First of all, I love people.
I'm only concerned with when people were around.
So before people, fuck off.
You want to kill all the people off so the wolves can run things?
Like, what are you even saying?
Doesn't make any sense.
And there was obviously some sort of an imbalance that led to these enormous populations of bison.
And I think Dan Flores is an incredibly brilliant guy.
I think he makes a really compelling argument because we do know...
Jamie's got a solid golf swing.
that the Native Americans were wiped out, that 90% of them were killed off by disease.
We're talking about millions of people.
And if millions of people were subsistence hunters and they were riding around, living off the buffalo, following them around, which we know they did, completely makes sense, especially when you take into account the long gestation period, that bison, I think they have to be pregnant for a long time, right?
The woolly mammoth I know is a long time.
That's about all I got is the golf swing.
What is a buffalo gestation period?
Very different than like a deer.
Very different than a lot of other animals.
Jamie, what's the longest drive you've ever hit?
It's pretty cool just to see them in Yellowstone.
Which is kind of weird.
The Yellowstone thing is weird.
I went there a few years back with my family and it's really beautiful and I enjoyed it, but I did not like the fact that all the elk were hanging out at the visitor station.
Because they know they can't be hunted there and they know the wolves won't go there.
They're like so domesticated.
They're just like 30 yards away from a fucking vending machine.
You see this big herd of elk just laying down on the ground, staring at people and people taking selfies with the animals.
I'm like, I don't know about this.
Have you ever seen the Instagram page Torons of Yellowstone?
Doing God's work right there.
If you go to it, so like people are just getting launched through the air by bison.
And God, how do they not know by now?
I don't play golf, but I think that's pretty legit.
I mean, how do you not know that you can't get close?
And then they'll walk right up to it to try to get a selfie.
It's fucking... Here's one.
Nothing happens here besides they're just close.
Well, there's no fucking way that guy should be standing there.
If I was that guy, I would be in that car as fast as I could.
I would climb into the passenger side like, fuck this.
Because danger, do not approach wildlife.
Right, like Montana or something like that.
Oh, that's interesting.
Oh, the simulator accounts for that?
What do you mean by brand, Inspector?
So how does that work?
Two million acres of just golf courses.
Okay, so that's a good way to look at it.
All the golf courses in the United States get lost every year in grassland.
So that's how when people have bison on private land, that's how they get them there?
Wow, that's a good way to put it, right?
That thing is amazing.
That's from my friend John Reeves in Alaska.
Oh, yeah, it's a crazy place.
And there's no real explanation to why there's such a population of dead animals in this one spot.
You know, and he thinks it's connected to the Younger Dryas impact theory.
Because there's a very clear, distinct line of carbon in his ground.
Like that, you know, when you go deep, deep, deep into the ground, which represents where these, like a lot of these things that he's pulling, they're plus 10,000 years old.
Like that step bison head, we didn't get it checked.
We didn't have it sent off.
But a lot of stuff he has dated, you know, older than 10,000 years.
And so what he thinks is that this is one of the areas where there was an impact.
You know, this Younger Dryas impact theory, there's two time periods.
One is around 11,800 years ago, and then there's another one somewhere around 10,000 plus years ago.
And he thinks one of those areas is where he was or where his spot in Alaska is.
And this deep, rich layer of carbon seems to indicate some massive burn there.
happened through that area and it coincides with this immense pile of bones and ivory and and you know mammoth skeletons and cave bears and all this shit like it's just small area you know his area is only like the area where they're pulling these bones from is only a few acres and
He thinks it was a wash.
So with the impact came this immediate melting of a lot of the ice caps.
And this is what they think happened that ended the ice age in North America.
10,000 plus years ago, you're looking at more than a mile high ice in a giant chunk of North America.
And then almost instantaneously that stuff gets melted.
And this coincides with Randall Carlson's theories about this too, which also was unsubstantiated until they came up with the core samples for the Younger Dry Ascent back there.
And they go, no, this happened.
There was a fucking massive impact.
Somewhere around 30% of the entire world was hit by comets.
And this area where John has, look at this, 2.1 to 2.3 acres.
So, if you look at the amount of stuff that he has, I mean, 2.3 acres is like a nice yard, right?
It's like a nice, a person's really, oh, you got a nice piece of land here, nice yard.
That's where he's pulling thousands of dead animals.
And if you look at his boneyard, if you look at some of the warehouses that he has, this is his Instagram page.
Boneyard Alaska is the Instagram page.
But he's got enormous warehouses filled with tusks.
And it's only from a couple acres.
And very similar time period.
Look at all this stuff, man.
And look back at the other picture right before.
Look at that truck filled with heads.
I mean, this is nuts, man.
And this is like a day's haul.
Oh, this is crazy, man.
Oh, it's really pretty extraordinary.
And thankfully, John has both the resources and the desire to blast the permafrost with these high pressure hoses to get all the stuff out of there.
But I mean, he's trying to set up a legitimate research facility out there.
You know, these scientists, they want to take the stuff and bring it somewhere.
if you want to do it, you're going to do it right here.
He already had a problem with the Museum of Natural History.
In New York, they dumped tons of his bones into the East River.
So the property that he owned before he owned it, someone else owned it, that is his property.
They took it and they were supposed to do research on it, but they had so many bones that they dumped a lot of it in the East River.
The museum denied it, and so he got divers to go look for it, and they found it exactly where they said.
Oh, it hurts my heart.
And they found step bison bones and all kinds of crazy shit that's not supposed to be there.
In a pile in the East River.
How old is the skull?
No, that's a Comanche head from here.
I showed it to Remy, and he said it's really big, so they're probably using it for fish.
It's interesting that the bigger ones, like, that is, like, kind of a normal arrowhead for elk or deer.
Like, in, you know, today's standards, you know, if you look at that, that's like, that looks like an iron will.
That's basically an iron will wide, right?
And they didn't use them that big.
They had smaller ones because they didn't have that much power.
They wanted real penetration.
There's a friend of mine has a ranch out here and they've got thousands of them.
You know, like the Comanche must have used that area and he has literally thousands and thousands of arrowheads.
He's got boxes of them all.
Just all of them are dated and certified like they know what time period they came from.
It was thousands of years probably.
Well, it's because it's really rich.
You know, it's like it's right off the Colorado River.
So a lot of resources, a lot of foliage, a lot of animals there to this day.
Well, Bill Gates already owns more farmland in this country than anybody.
I can't imagine that.
Well, I know he was in the fucking veggie burger business for a while, but that shit went tits up.
Well, that stuff's not even a real burger.
It's filled with seed oils and all these fucking, all this goo that you need to make sure that it connects together.
And then people would pretend that it's delicious.
Oh, this is delicious.
You can't even tell the difference.
You can't tell the difference?
Where are you getting your burgers?
Because you're eating cardboard burger.
And it's just bad for you.
You know, that's where it went tits up when those studies that came out that said it's given lab rats cancer.
But then it's highly processed.
It's not like, you know, you're eating an eggplant, you know, you're not eating a squash, right?
You're eating something that's gone through this insane process to make – pretend that it's a burger.
And there's a lot of investors who lost a shit ton of money because they were lied to.
They were told that this is going to be easy to make and it's going to be really convenient and people are going to love it and people are looking for an alternative to meat.
Actually, they're not.
You know, and this is the only thing that was my buddy Duncan.
He's living in North Carolina.
And when COVID came and, you know, there was a lot of shortages in the supermarkets and the lockdowns and all that jazz.
He's like, the only shit that's available here is this fucking bullshit fake meat.
Like fake meat was the only he sent a picture.
It was the only thing left on the shelf was like beyond meat or beyond burger or whatever the fuck it's called.
That's a good litmus test right yeah if the world's gonna end and nobody reaching for people still aren't eating it It's fucking it's actually bad for you seed oils are bad for you and those things are filled with seed oils and there's also filled with a bunch of Process because you can't just it's not you know look if you want to be vegetarian just eat vegetables Okay, don't don't pretend you're eating some fucking fake burger.
I don't care if it's just vegetables, but... Just eat Indian food.
There's a lot of, like, really great Indian restaurants that are totally vegetarian.
I used to eat at one that was in Woodland Hills.
It was really cool because you'd go in there and everyone was speaking Hindi.
Nobody, you know, all the...
Like it was like a cafeteria place and all the menus were all in another, I had to point at things.
I didn't know what the fuck it was.
I'm like, give me one of those.
But it was all vegetarian.
Like there's vegetarian food that you can eat.
It doesn't, you don't have to pretend that it's a fucking burger.
Well, and then there's the problem of what actually happens when you have monocrop agriculture, because a lot of that stuff is coming from that.
And by the way, there's way more death per calorie per
Of food that you get from monocrop agriculture, from growing just one crop in an area than you're ever going to get from meat.
Like there's thousands of animals, millions of animals have to get killed in for in order you to grow this food.
That's just a fact of life.
So is that because it has to be completely away from all predators, that it has to know where everything is?
Does it fly like a chicken does, like short periods?
Or does it fly like a turkey?
See if you can pull it up.
Oh, a cool-looking little animal.
Those are all the same.
So the greater prairie chicken, how big is that?
So the little one's tiny.
Oh, that's a big one.
That's the greater prairie chicken.
What a cool-looking little bird.
When I was in... This guy's got ears.
Isn't that thing amazing?
I've never seen a bird with ears like that.
Like other than like an owl kind of has them, but those are so pronounced.
How cool is that thing?
Is that his actual ears?
Or is that just like a weird feather structure?
Those are just feathers, yeah.
But where's his ears?
They're right behind his eyeballs.
So do you think that feather structure enhances hearing?
I mean, it has to, right?
Oh, let the ladies know.
Look at my ears, baby.
I got it going on over here.
And so it's almost kind of a grouse.
Yep, it is a grouse, yeah.
It's probably also one of those animals that feral cats fuck up.
Oh, wow, look how cool it is.
Wow, so beautiful looking.
Look at his eyebrows.
Oh, let's go get it on.
Look at that guy's cock blocking.
What a cute little animal.
Yeah, monocrop agriculture is such a problem, and industrial agriculture in general.
I had Will Harris on a couple of times from White Oaks Pastures.
And so his family farm was an industrial farm forever, and then when he took it over, it was like a 20-year period of converting it
to become regenerative.
And in that process, if you look outside in our lobby area, we have two jars of soil that were given to us by Will.
And one of them is from his neighbor's property.
That's an industrial farm.
And it's just like this weird pale looking fucking just, you know, it's all industrial fertilizer that they have to use and pesticides and all that shit.
And his is like this rich, dark soil.
He's like super proud of like what they've turned it into.
converted it over to just this natural process that's supposed to exist when animals graze the undulates they poop and they make manure and then the grasses grow and the animals eat the grass it's all that's how it's supposed to be and we've but you know what else it is inconvenient yeah
Well, fortunately for him, he's got a big name now, and so people seek out his food.
They want to buy from him.
But, you know, there's a lot of, like, bullshitting from supermarkets.
Like, he had a real issue with Whole Foods lying.
And even after he had stopped selling them food, they were saying that it was coming from him.
Even the concept of, like, grass-fed, like, for how long?
Like, and how are you feeding them the grass?
Are they in a pen where you're feeding the grass?
Are they actually wandering around eating grass like they're supposed to?
There's a lot of that, you know?
Like, when you hear about, like, chickens, you know, they're free range.
Like, what does that mean?
Yeah, Jesse does it the right way.
And he's such a good chef.
When Steve and I went to Utoria down in South Texas to hunt, Jesse came and he cooked for us.
It was the most incredible experience.
And he cooked diver duck, which everybody says is gross.
He's like, no, no, no.
You just have to prepare it properly.
And it was some of the best duck I've ever had in my life.
He just has a marinating process that he does, and then he grills it.
No, I mean, human beings, for the most part, in urban areas are completely disconnected.
If you had a survey of how many people really understand where food comes from in your average city.
I would imagine to less than double digits.
Probably a small percentage of people really understand.
Now imagine the Younger Giants impact today.
Imagine some kind of impact like that today to force people to actually find their own food.
It's got to be dead forever.
First of all, you'd be dealing with a small amount of survivors.
Let's imagine an apocalyptic scenario where 20% of the population survives, which has probably happened numerous times in human history.
If that happened today...
How many people are equipped to find food?
How many people are equipped to live off the land?
It's such a small amount.
And I just I wish more people appreciated it.
I wish more people experienced it.
That's not it's not theirs to sell.
There's just too many people that just are landlocked.
And what I mean by landlocked, I mean, in cities, urban locked is probably the best term for it.
And people that aren't afraid to criticize aspects of the big, beautiful bill.
There's just too many people that just don't go out.
They don't they don't know how amazing it is.
It's like I always say that it's it's like a vitamin that you didn't know you needed.
That's such a terrible thing to be so trapped in the ideology of your party that you can't stand up for what's right.
Yeah, those boat shoes.
It's really gross and it's prevalent.
It's been around for a long time, this weird system that we have.
It's not good for anybody.
And it's all being fed by lobbyists and special interest groups and they're all just – they want to keep it going.
You know, you get out into the real wild, the real woods.
They want to keep the grift going.
It's some kind of a nutrient that you didn't know you needed.
It's very unique to the United States.
It's an amazing thing that we have.
Oh, right, right, right.
I did see a lot of that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I did see a lot of that.
Like, no, we didn't, stupid.
No, we voted because we felt like the country was moving in a terrible direction.
It doesn't mean that they can't also move in a terrible direction once you get them in.
The important thing is people stood up
people like you, luckily, that are very invested in this and use the considerable resources you have access to and got a lot of other people involved like Cam, Josh Smith, and everybody else.
We're just lucky that a lot of people care and recognize that this is a slippery slope and that if they got through with this and they did this, this is just one step.
And if you let them sell one acre, that's why just not one acre was the best motto.
Not one acre was the best motto.
And if you sell it, you should make zero profit.
Literally, if you did sell it, it should have to go to every fucking person that lives in the planet.
Or in this country, rather.
And we don't want it.
We don't want that money.
Keep it the way it is.
No, the value of this stuff only goes up.
Again, we're $36 fucking trillion in debt.
You're not even going to put it.
If you sold all the public land, all of it that we have, it wouldn't put a dent in it.
You could strip all the timber.
How do you sleep with no eye cover?
Do you really think that's it?
And I don't think people in other countries understand this.
That's a weird perspective.
Yeah, I don't know if I agree with that.
I just think they look at it as an opportunity to cash in.
I think they look at it as an opportunity.
Like we have all this land.
Let's sell some of it.
I think it's just like incredibly short-sighted.
I think they think in terms of literally in terms of terms where they're elected.
People are gross, man.
If you let them be, they'll be gross.
And it drives them insane.
There's definitely that.
There's definitely that.
A lot of short-sightedness.
It's a lot of people could use a mushroom trip.
It's just a lot of people that are just, you're missing so much of what this life is because you're so concentrated on your election cycle.
You're so concentrated on making more money.
You're so concentrated on things that when you're 90 and you're in your deathbed, it ain't going to mean shit, man.
It's not going to mean a damn thing.
Like you can't keep it.
You can't take it with you.
And they don't see that while they're on the hunt, while they're in the middle of this process of trying to accumulate zeros in their bank account.
Saw another zero hit.
That's all they want.
And they're competing with other people that are doing the exact same thing.
So they're in their little short-sighted echo chambers, you know?
Yeah, and we need to also let people know that this is an issue going forward now that we know.
This is an issue that can affect whether or not you get elected.
You need to know that.
Like, we're going to be on you.
We're going to be consistent and we're going to be on your ass.
And now that this has happened and we've had some success and it worked, now people know it'll work.
And so now all the Randy Newbergs and all the people that were really enthusiastic about this that really did their job, they're getting more support now and it's going to build.
And then we'll be much more aware of whether one of these things is trying to get snuck through in the future.
I don't think people in America even understand how unique it is.
This is just people in the comments, right?
Who are those people?
Yeah, don't read them.
You're dealing with such a small population of morons.
The problem with comments is, especially negative comments, it's such a small population and almost all of them are fucking losers.
You're not those people.
Yeah, you voted for this.
Those people are just trying to win.
They're just trying to like get you.
And they're people that for whatever reason thought Kamala Harris would be a good president.
And then there's also people that I don't even know if they're real humans.
I think there's a lot of this stuff that we have to understand about social media is coordinated bot farms.
And so anytime you have a hot button topic that could maybe get a bill rejected or get a bill passed, it's not organic, the comments.
There's some organic comments.
Some of these people that are negative, you voted for this, they're just a real fucking loser who doesn't like people that have public profiles, doesn't like people that are successful, doesn't like people...
And they just want to find some way to call you out.
There's a lot of that.
But then there's a lot of coordinated artificial interaction.
And we've highlighted that and we've been on that for quite a while because we found out through this one former FBI guy that 80% – his estimation was 80% of Twitter is bots.
I know it's the case.
I don't know if it's 80%, but I do know that it's an enormous number because I don't interact.
And I'm now, I've since separated myself so far that I'm kind of not even on social media anymore.
I might check it in the morning.
I check Twitter in the morning to see what everybody's mad at.
And then I usually feel bad after I check it.
I'm like, why am I even looking at this?
And when you do that, you feel better.
You just feel healthier.
When I do check and like there's any sort of a hot button issue, I'll look at someone as saying something outrageous, then I'll click on their profile.
And then I'm like, it's like a bunch of letters and a few numbers.
And then I look at their profile.
I'm like, oh, you're not even a real fucking person.
And then you see, oh, this is like half of the people in this aren't real people.
First of all, let me be real clear.
I'm against a law where it says you have to post under your name, your social security number has to be registered to this account so we know you're a real human being.
The reason why I'm opposed to that is because I think whistleblowers are essential because I think corruption is real.
And I think if you hold someone accountable for everything they post –
Man, you're going down a dark road.
You're going down a dark road where you could possibly get people fired for posts that, you know, like England is out of control right now.
I don't know if you know this, but England, I think it was somewhere in the neighborhood.
How many people got arrested for social media posts in England this year?
We've looked this up before.
It's in the thousands.
Arrested for saying immigration is a real problem.
We've got to stop these grooming gangs.
We've got to stop these Muslims from illegally immigrating into England.
Like no bullshit, real time for saying things that they believe.
Like I could kill for a cheeseburger.
I always said I killed.
But it's mostly about policy issues.
And what they're trying to do is make sure that everyone stays in line.
And so they're doing this by scaring people away from being critical of the government.
And the way to start it is to attack people that say anything bad about immigration, attack people that say anything bad about the government.
In fact, they're just doing this in Brazil right now.
They just passed this huge fucking law that you can get removed from social media for anything that's critical of the government, anything that's critical of Lula, who's the president of Brazil right now.
You get removed from social media.
Like you can't be critical.
Like they don't have freedom of speech anymore.
And this is the slippery road.
This is a slippery slope that we were going down with the last administration, what they had done during the pandemic.
It's scary stuff, man.
And people have to be aware of it.
Like our public lands, what they did when they set that up, not just national parks, but all the public lands, we created this insane resource, this beautiful resource where we can go into the mountains, into the woods and enjoy nature.
You self-censor out of survival.
You realize this is too dangerous.
I'm not going to say anything.
And that's how they get things passed because then you don't have any criticism.
And then you don't have any people that are opposing you.
It's very scary because, again, a lot of this stuff that you're seeing that's causing people to self-center is not real human beings.
Police make 30 arrests a day for offensive online messages.
So officers from 37 forces made 12,183 arrests in 2023, the equivalent of about 33 per day.
Marks an almost 58% rise in arrests since before the pandemic.
In 2019, but still, like 2019, 7,000 detentions for online shit.
So, what we have in America is incredibly unique in that regard.
And other countries are setting a standard, and it's a dangerous fucking standard.
And we have to really make sure that that doesn't happen here.
And we also have to make sure... I wish there was a way where you could identify bots.
And Elon tried to find this out when he bought Twitter.
So when he purchased Twitter, they told him that it was less than 5%.
And he's like, well, how did you figure that out?
And, well, they only figured it out.
It's not a real number.
But they just took a random cross-section of 100 users and found 5% of those people were clearly bots.
That doesn't mean anything.
You could also do that.
You could take a random section of users that interact with very non-controversial subjects and find a small number of bots.
Like, let's say you find a birdwatching group of people on Instagram or on Twitter.
Like, what are the odds that those people are going to be bots?
There's no benefit financially or otherwise.
you know coming exactly like so if you go after bird i use bird watchers because i see them all the time you know that's like the purest form of just this is what they're into great group yeah great group of people but there's no financial incentive to support or deny bird watching
So if you go to the birdwatcher group on Twitter, yeah, it's probably 5% bots because they're fucking everywhere.
But I guarantee if you go to abortion or if you go to immigration or if you go to anything that's a hot button controversial, ice raids, whatever it is.
Any hot button controversial subject, there's a shit ton of them, man.
And it's kind of creepy because who is paying for it?
Who's paying for it and how come we don't have any laws to stop that from happening?
Because it's not real.
You're getting this artificial sense of what the general public wants because they've monetized it and they figured out a way to artificially inflate these numbers.
And I think we were with this, which is beautiful.
So the Democrats, the Republicans, and the people like me that are fucking politically homeless, they all came together on this and said, no, this is stupid.
And all these people, oh, you voted for this.
Nobody voted for that.
Like, this is one guy.
And if history, if that didn't work, if we didn't have an impact, and if nobody stepped up and people like you weren't so steadfast...
That would be in the history books.
That Mike Lee guy would be the guy that you see, you know, your kids see in 40, 50 years and they read the history books.
They go, oh, that guy?
That's what happened.
Well, it depends on who's writing the history books, right?
It could be that he would be a hero.
They generated $200 extra billion that did nothing, did nothing for this.
I mean, this big, beautiful bill, doesn't it raise the debt by $3 trillion?
Like I said, this is my own personal dumpster fire.
What Trump wants is growth.
He wants economic growth.
And he thinks he can get it out of this.
And that's the overall net benefit.
Dead ceiling increased by $5 trillion.
Did that just happen, Jamie?
$150 billion in additional border security.
Well, we probably need that.
$154 billion in additional defense spending.
You got to feed the demons.
The Golden Dome thing, dude.
What's the Golden Dome?
Also, hypersonic missiles.
There's a lot of shit it doesn't work with.
Well, it's such a slippery slope, too.
Stay unified and avoid the comments, folks.
Don't be scared to speak out against something that you know is wrong.
This is what people don't know or don't appreciate.
If you say, oh, it's only like one million acres.
Well, most of those shit talkers don't have good friends.
The people that actually are actual human beings that are losers, the reason why they're losers is because they're in a bad spot, okay?
And any one of us could have been that person.
Any one of us could have been that person that's surrounded by bad people.
They got a bad relationship.
There's not a whole lot of hope, not a whole lot of happiness.
We'll sell off one million acres.
And so you try to tear down everything around you.
Yeah, you put your petty shit over the top of the real shit.
Yeah, but my perspective is, look, I can't fix everybody, so I can't help you.
It'll help fix the debt.
But I don't want to interact with you.
So I'm not going to, I'm not, I don't have the time.
I don't have the resources.
I don't like arguing with people, so I don't want to do it.
If you talk to people one-on-one, most people are pretty fucking reasonable.
But when they're just shouting out into the void like that, guess what?
You don't have to read it.
You don't have to listen.
You don't have to interact.
It's fucking bad for you.
It's bad for your brain.
The debt's $37 trillion.
Everybody that I know that's on social media all the time is super unhealthy.
But you have to curate your community online the same way you curate your community in the real world.
You're not going to fix the debt by selling off public land.
And this is a part of not reading the comments because the comments is the whole world or the people that are interacting.
It's not really the whole world, but again, it's just not worth it.
It's just not worth it.
It's not worth going in there.
And if you open up that slippery slope to these fucking vampire developers, they're going to keep doing it.
I think that's best done on a group basis.
Like just make a post.
Thank you to everybody that did it, but don't interact with individuals.
It's just not worth it.
The people that I know that do it, they all get fucked up.
Because it's just like it just takes one comment that gets under your skin, that carries you around while you're hanging out.
You're at your kid's baseball game and you think, that cocksucker on Twitter.
There's a lot of people out there that are doing that, man.
You're watching your kid hit a home run and you're not even happy.
You're mad about some fucking random dude who you don't even know if it's a real person.
They're going to keep sucking on that blood until there's nothing left, until it's just the national parks.
There's mostly just an asshole and even their argument probably sucks, but also a lot of it's artificial.
You got to think about how much money is involved in selling off this public land and how much of an interest do people have in pushing a narrative that would say that selling this public land is a good thing.
You know, there's money involved in this.
Whenever there's money involved in this, you can pay for it.
There's services where you can start a campaign like it's not real.
There's services where if you want to push a narrative, you can use their service and they will incorporate this bot farm and they will push it towards whatever you want to do.
That's what's fucked.
It's just lying with computers.
Oh, we preserved Yellowstone.
Well, there's whole articles reading.
One commenter said, no, they didn't.
You know, if that's a fucking robot, are you going to make a retraction?
If it's AI, are you going to?
Are you going to say something about that?
Are you going to say there's a problem?
No, you're not going to say because your whole business is clickbait.
And the more you have negative comments you could use to start the formulation of an article.
OK, that's how you make a living.
And so don't read their fucking articles either.
Just like you have to just interact only with real humans.
You have a good time with it, though.
Well, people listen to you, fortunately.
It's got to feel a little good.
Doesn't it feel good that people united and listened?
Your representatives just decide against the will of the people.
Like that's a hard experience to have.
It's hidden on purpose.
You know, they want to be able to do what they want to do.
Yeah, and there's a lot of money that gets them elected, and once they get in there, they get these phone calls from these folks, hey, I need you to do this.
And he was the guy we were fighting a few years ago.
I abandoned those people.
I identify as a Texan now.
Thank you for seeing my truth.
I think you just want to sell the land.
I don't think that any any.
I got one of those somewhere.
Well, thank you for doing what you do, brother.
And thank you for being such a vocal spokesperson during this time because it was really, really impactful.
It made a lot of difference.
I want to change my shirt.
Let's hope we don't have to do it again.
But if we do, we'll do it again.
And Cal's Week in Review, it's available everywhere.
Apple, Spotify, all that jazz, right?
It was happening back then.
That was like, what, five years ago?
Love you, too, brother.
Five years ago, I moved here.
So it had to be six or seven years ago.
That's a hook for sure.
Well, I have a friend who lives in Salt Lake and he said that they'll literally send hot girls to try to recruit people.
They knock on your door and they're hot.
They're also, in terms of like, it's a weird religion, right?
Because here, what's the number here?