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Ryan Greenblatt

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243 total appearances

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LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

adaptation, humans learning how to use models better, workflow changes, people shifting what they work on to areas that benefit more from AI assistance, etc., and some diffusion.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

As in, using AI tools provides as much of an engineering productivity increase as if people operated 1.6x faster when doing engineering, in addition to literal coding, engineering includes less central activities, like determining what features to implement,

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

deciding how to architect code, and coordinating a meeting with other engineers.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

For many specific engineering and research tasks, people can now leverage AIs to do that task with much less of their time, for example 3-10x less human time, but other tasks see much smaller speed-ups.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

People are shifting their work toward two kinds of tasks, lower value, tasks where AIs are particularly helpful, and tasks they wouldn't have been able to do without AI due to insufficient skills in knowledge.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

When people think about AI uplift, they naturally think about something like how much longer would it take me to do the work I'm currently doing without AI.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

But this isn't the right question, because people have adapted their workflows, completing more tasks where AI helps a lot and doing tasks they wouldn't otherwise have the skills for.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

This bias is the answer upward relative to how much productivity is actually increased.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

The question that better captures the actual productivity value is something like how much would we have to speed you up before you'd be indifferent between that speed up and having AI tools?

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

I think the answer to this, the serial speed up I quoted above, is around 1.6x right now, while the answer to the prior question might be more like 3-20x.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

the speed up is also lower than it might seem because the resulting code is generally sloppier, less reliable, and less well understood than if it was just written by human engineers.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

It's more common for no one, including the AIs themselves, to have a great understanding of how some code works or how exactly it fits into a broader system, and for example what assumptions it makes, making some issues more frequent.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

Other types of errors are made less frequent because AIs make testing less expensive.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

But for much of AI R&D, low reliability and poor understanding isn't catastrophic.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

Also, experimentation is typically done in smallish relatively self-contained projects where the AIs and the humans can get a decent understanding of what's going on.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

This engineering speed-up isn't distributed evenly.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

I expect Anthropic is getting a larger speed up than OpenAI which is getting a substantially larger speed up than GDM.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

I think that Anthropic's best internal models provide a larger engineering acceleration than OpenAI's best internal models and that simultaneously Anthropic is somewhat better adapted to effectively leverage AI.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

It's also possible that Anthropic's best public models are actually better for engineering acceleration than OpenAI's internal models, which could yield a situation where outside actors are sped up more than OpenAI is.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"My picture of the present in AI" by ryan_greenblatt

GDM's models are substantially worse at coding, ML research, and generally being agents and they likely have worse organizational utilization, so I'd guess they have much lower speed up.