Ryan Hana

We saw the end of season presser years ago where he mentioned making trades at the deadline.

Is this an ongoing friction that maybe escalated beyond the initial perception?

Where was the inflection point to maybe get this right and be consistently in the playoffs when you look back at, I would say, I guess the last four years?

Is there a moment you say, okay, this is when they should have been more ambitious and tried to start trying to get into the playoffs?

Because the rebuild I think everyone looks at right now, and especially in contrast in the East, is Montreal and how quickly they spun it around.

And we had Frank on the show yesterday.

He was talking about they were in the final in 2021, and they're back in the conference finals in 2025, like recycling everything.

And it's been...

over half a decade for detroit to get back in the playoffs and the thing i look at with montreal is okay they hit on a lot of picks and they had a lottery a lot of lottery luck as well to help all that but it's not as if detroit is like missed and whiffed on picks here like mort cider has been a hit lucas raymond has been a hit simon edmondson has been a hit like where where has been the gap why this hasn't gone as smoothly as we see traditional rebuilds go

So I think there's two conversations here.

One is, okay, what should be the ideal package that they try to get in a Dylan Larkin trade?

And is that influenced by where the direction of the franchise is going?

And I guess the other is, what is Steve Eisenman's job security at this stage here?

No, just finish that thought on Eisenman.

hard to see them as being successful when they already had massive holes or behind the eight ball and they just lost the best centerman we have these conversations in vancouver so i'm curious like what is the tone of the the fan bases the fan base that you interact with as well because you know when you enter the the rebuild phase like there's always that concern of hey if it takes nine years and the

the light doesn't seem like it's on boy.

Like you really start to wander into the abyss.

And like, what is the mentality right now?

If, if this Larkin trade can like manifest and it's for futures, like what is the journey been like?

And where is the mentality right now of like the rebuild phase?