Ryan Hanley

It was like, dude, you would have thought that I just ripped the biggest fart in the middle of Catholic mass ever.

Everyone was aghast at the fact that I would say that I thought it was cowardice.

It sparked this incredible debate that really didn't have a, we couldn't come to a conclusion.

But the general sense was people are very, very nervous, incredibly nervous and scared about talking about politics in any way as it relates to business.

One, do you think that that's a good thing and a good business practice?

And two, how do you handle

politics and political conversations in these topics because for who I do business with, it's incredibly important to me, at least to know where your head is at.

I don't have to agree with everything, but it's important.

I guess the context of the question was I feel like people use business as an excuse.

I actually share 100% your reason for being vocal.

I just don't think I'm willing to accept the consequences, any consequences that may come with someone

not doing business with me because they disagree with me politically, I've just accepted.

And I just, I struggle with why so many people like,

I just struggle with this.

And I'll give you another example.

So I just did a speaking gig yesterday.

I had a keynote yesterday.

And the night before, we went out for dinner and a couple beers with the people that were organizing it.

And they brought in some of the VIPs from the event, standard kind of keynote thing.

And it was great.