Ryan Holiday

And so what I try to do is always be in the middle of the next thing.

And then what that does is it actually means that there's a real cost to getting obsessed with how the thing that just came out is doing because what it's taking away from is what I should be doing now.

I see.

You also have another one coming two days later.

Yeah, it's like a train.

You know, it's like this is when it comes in and it comes out.

This is what it does.

So there is something about a release or a launch that is different.

It's higher stakes.

But I do imagine that when you're looking at the Spotify comments on the bottom of the episode, very rarely are you getting constructive, informative feedback from that.

Feedback is essential and criticism is important.

But like somebody firing off an email or posting a comment, that's not what you let in if you're trying to get better.

That's what you let in if you either want to fill up your ego or you want to feel like a piece of shit.

Well, I will say one thing.

This is feedback.

One thing, as obviously I've done a lot of podcasts over the years, you are one of the only shows that you can count on for sure to have actually read the thing as opposed to, you know, they're just riffing from the back cover, having been briefed on who the guest is a few minutes before they go on.

That's totally right.

It's that Nick Saban line.

It's like, how good do you want to be?

You know, like, and we all make these decisions.