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Ryan Kidd

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
958 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

He's raising huge amounts of money for his models.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Maybe he is going to make more money this way, an expectation that he would have made staying at OpenAI.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

It's possible.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

He's got his own company now.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

He still retains OpenAI stock, I'm sure.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

He gets to, yeah.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

My earliest perception of a person advocating for this was Paul Cristiano, you know, his takeoff speeds post pushing back against, I suppose what he saw is like predominantly the Miri perspective of the time, like, oh, we're going to, you know, we're going to build the thing in secret or I don't, frankly, I don't want to,

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

I don't know what Mary's objectives were, but I know that they were trying very hard to not leak any information about their alignment research in some areas.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Other areas, they published great papers and so on.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

But Paul Cristiano at the time was pushing back against this kind of... He thought that fast takeoff was what would happen if you had a bunch of...

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

dry tinder lying around.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So if we had tons and tons and tons of GPUs and then we stopped research for a year and then started again, well, you'd expect a steeper growth, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And we're seeing this in terms of very, very fast followers.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

This is not just a phenomenon in AI, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

In economies, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

It's like I recently did a study where they showed like the pace of like new AI companies approaching the frontier is just so much faster than the pace, which the frontier moves.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Cause there's an abundance of chips.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

There's an abundance of data and meth methods and, and so on.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And it's the same with like, you know, catch up economies and so on in the world.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Uh, so I think that Paul Cristiano, you know, he was right in the sense that like, if society is to cope and adapt to AI, then having gradual release and diffusion of technologies is better from that perspective.