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Ryan Kidd

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
958 total appearances

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Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Don't rule technical research out because it is like, especially if we have something like a regulatory market or even like warning shots to cause the public to wake up and tell Congress to regulate this stuff, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

We have to have technical solutions ready to deploy.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

to make these systems safer.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And the cheaper we make it to make systems that extra degree safer, to lower the alignment tax that companies have to pay to train and deploy their systems to be safer, the more likely they are to do it when they come under pressure, either internally, externally, or whatever.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So I think that lowering the alignment tax via technical research is super important still.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Also, if this alignment MVP plan is going to work, we have to have a bunch of directions for things to be iterated on by these AI assistants or humans calling teams of AI assistants as it's more likely to be.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And you actually have this massive interplay between technical research and governance research where things like evals and safety cases built on technical AI safety solutions are things that can actually be tangibly put forward in policy proposals, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And can convince policymakers of demos and evals and model organism honeypot traps, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Where AI systems deceive the users or whatever.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

This is what convinces policymakers to make policy and

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

gives them a tangible target for their policy to work on, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So there's a clear flywheel here.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So I would say like, do not rule out technical research.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And there is a reason why Matt says so many more technical mentors.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And that's just because it seems like on the whole, our mentor selection committee thinks that, you know, I guess on average, a technical portfolio is worth pursuing.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Yeah.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So we are a 501 C three.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So we have to kind of, we have to keep our adverse advocacy and stuff to a minimum.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And I think Matt's a lot of massive strength is this, this kind of impartial player.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Like we're trying to be somewhat of a research university tech accelerator kind of vibe.