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Ryan Kidd

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
958 total appearances

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Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So we consult the very best people as much as we possibly can, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And we try to like, yeah, we build our own opinions, but we don't rely on them, right?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

We try and consult experts every stage.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

The paper or blog post you're mentioning, which was called Talent Needs of Technical AI Safety Teams, to construct that, we surveyed like 31 different lab leads and hiring managers, whoever we could get, like the most senior person we could get related to safety at every AI safety org we could find that was like hiring at that time.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And we asked them, what do you need?

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And then we compiled all that survey, all those interview notes, into three archetypes.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

This is just technical.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

We've since done this for governance.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Expect that to drop soon.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So those three archetypes were connectors, iterators, and amplifiers.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So we chose the term connector because these people are bridging gaps between theoretical arguments for AI safety and theoretical techniques to make AI safe.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

and the empirical techniques to actually make it happen.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

So they're sort of like spawning new empirical paradigms to work on.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

No one is hiring these people.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

It's pretty rare, because if you're good at that, then everyone knows your name, and you're already hired.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Perhaps you're already leading an organization.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And everyone wants to be an ideas guy, but very few people want to hire ideas guys.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

And these people typically, it's people like

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

Buck Shledgeris, AI Control, Paul Cristiano, just a huge amount of resources he's produced and so on.

Future of Life Institute Podcast
Can AI Do Our Alignment Homework? (with Ryan Kidd)

You know these people, right?