Ryan Kidd

I'd say Marius Halpan as well to some extent with his deception evals work.

Yeah, like, and probably dozens of people.

I'm just like sharing some of the more

the names that come more easily to mind, but just many, many people have come through maths with this.

We're super open to individuals who have this kind of archetype.

And note, a connector, right?

They have empirical skills, they have theoretical skills.

So they could probably succeed in a bunch of different ways, right?

But they're uniquely spec'd out to connect those two things.

Now, there are some mentors and projects that are much more suited to this kind of thing than others.

People like Richard Ngo, historically Evan Hubinger.

I think actually Evan Hubinger has been like probably the most dominant connector driving force at maths over our time.

But he's not a mentor in the next program, unfortunately.

He doesn't have time.

But yeah.

There's many different opportunities at Mass for this kind of thing.

I think even in some of the interp streams as well, it's very possible to enter an interpretability stream and bring it with it like some model of the kind of theory-based interpretability mechanism or strategy that you want to pursue and then see that executed on.

That's happened several times.

I have many takes here.

So obviously I advocate a portfolio and that's, that's has historically sponsored a bunch of projects.