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Where does this story start?
Where does this story start?
Where does this story start?
This is Dutch Van Andel. Up until last year, he lived a pretty ordinary life. He's a software engineering manager, married with two kids, and lives in the suburbs of Los Angeles. But last year, something happened that turned his ordinary life upside down. It started when Dutch downloaded a seemingly innocuous program onto his personal computer.
This is Dutch Van Andel. Up until last year, he lived a pretty ordinary life. He's a software engineering manager, married with two kids, and lives in the suburbs of Los Angeles. But last year, something happened that turned his ordinary life upside down. It started when Dutch downloaded a seemingly innocuous program onto his personal computer.
This is Dutch Van Andel. Up until last year, he lived a pretty ordinary life. He's a software engineering manager, married with two kids, and lives in the suburbs of Los Angeles. But last year, something happened that turned his ordinary life upside down. It started when Dutch downloaded a seemingly innocuous program onto his personal computer.
It was an AI software called Vision LLM, and it could generate images. He wanted something his sons could play with.
It was an AI software called Vision LLM, and it could generate images. He wanted something his sons could play with.
It was an AI software called Vision LLM, and it could generate images. He wanted something his sons could play with.
He didn't know it at the time, but the program had a malicious code in it, a code that gave a hacker access to Dutch's computer. And over a period of months, that hacker stole all of Dutch's personal information, like his bank accounts and passwords,
He didn't know it at the time, but the program had a malicious code in it, a code that gave a hacker access to Dutch's computer. And over a period of months, that hacker stole all of Dutch's personal information, like his bank accounts and passwords,
He didn't know it at the time, but the program had a malicious code in it, a code that gave a hacker access to Dutch's computer. And over a period of months, that hacker stole all of Dutch's personal information, like his bank accounts and passwords,
It was a nightmare. And it wasn't just his personal life that was hacked. Through Dutch, the hacker also got inside his employer, Disney. Disney has apparently been hit by a cyber attack. The hacking group Noble says it leaked thousands of internal Disney messages. While Dutch's story is unusual, his life online wasn't. And what happened to him could happen to almost anyone.
It was a nightmare. And it wasn't just his personal life that was hacked. Through Dutch, the hacker also got inside his employer, Disney. Disney has apparently been hit by a cyber attack. The hacking group Noble says it leaked thousands of internal Disney messages. While Dutch's story is unusual, his life online wasn't. And what happened to him could happen to almost anyone.
It was a nightmare. And it wasn't just his personal life that was hacked. Through Dutch, the hacker also got inside his employer, Disney. Disney has apparently been hit by a cyber attack. The hacking group Noble says it leaked thousands of internal Disney messages. While Dutch's story is unusual, his life online wasn't. And what happened to him could happen to almost anyone.
Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Ryan Knudson. It's Monday, March 17th. Coming up on the show, what it feels like to be at the center of a major hack on one of the world's largest companies.
Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Ryan Knudson. It's Monday, March 17th. Coming up on the show, what it feels like to be at the center of a major hack on one of the world's largest companies.
Welcome to The Journal, our show about money, business, and power. I'm Ryan Knudson. It's Monday, March 17th. Coming up on the show, what it feels like to be at the center of a major hack on one of the world's largest companies.
That is one impressive mustache. Thank you. Dutch's mustache is long, straight, and points directly out to the sides.
That is one impressive mustache. Thank you. Dutch's mustache is long, straight, and points directly out to the sides.