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Ryan Knudson

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The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Some of the church's longtime members told CAM that when they started to question Mathis' leadership, they began to feel unwelcome.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

In the letter, the church's attorney said, "...the members who were replaced as church leaders weren't pushed out.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

They were simply replaced by the next generation, just as has happened in church bodies for thousands of years."

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

All of these changes started to come to the attention of the great-grandchildren of the church's original co-founder, A.M.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Burton.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

One of those great-grandchildren is Amy Grant, as in six-time Grammy winner Amy Grant.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Around Nashville, Amy Grant is considered music royalty.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

She's been called the queen of Christian pop, with a string of hits like her 90s single, Baby Baby, which my sister and I used to dance to when we were kids.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

There's kind of a bit of a running joke on our podcast about how like when I have people on, I sometimes make a joke about trying to get them to sing.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

But I think you might be the first person with the actual chops to sing.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Sadly, no, we are not singing today.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Amy politely declined.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Okay, back to the story.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Amy heard from her cousin Andy Burton, a local dentist, who had caught wind of what Mathis was doing at their great-grandfather's old church.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Even though Amy hadn't gone to the church since her great-grandfather's funeral, she often saw it when she played concerts downtown.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Why did you feel like it was something worth fighting for?

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

But Amy and the Burton family had found a way to fight for control of the church.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

That's next.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

When A.M.

The Journal.
The Battle Over a Church Worth Millions

Burton set up the Central Church of Christ back in 1925, it, like all buildings, had a deed to go with it.