Ryan Knudson

How would you say Kristi Noem handled Minnesota?

According to Michelle's reporting, patience was wearing thin inside the White House.

And Democrats made DHS leadership an issue in funding talks.

The president defended Noem publicly until last week when Noem was called to testify on Capitol Hill.

So then that leads to this Senate hearing.

How important was this Senate hearing for Kristi Noem?

It was huge for her.

That's next.

As Kristi Noem testified on Capitol Hill last week, the White House was watching.

Noam refused to answer the question directly.

But Michelle's sources say the moment that really got Noem in trouble started when a staunch Trump ally grilled her about that ad campaign you heard about earlier.

He did?

Mm-hmm.

Yes.

Okay.

Why was that a fatal mistake?

Trump later told Reuters that he, quote, never knew anything about Noem's ad spends.

Noem has said publicly before that Trump was aware of her campaign.

Last Thursday, just a day after she testified, Noem was out at DHS.

Her advisor, Corey Lewandowski, is also leaving.