Ryan Knutson

What do you see as your role in the media landscape? I mean –

I want to ask about the economics of this new industry. The economics obviously have shaped everything. The economics of the traditional newspaper business, let's say, over the last, you know, in the 20th century was to have as wide of an audience as possible. That's led to in some ways the rise of objectivity because we're just neutral.

I want to ask about the economics of this new industry. The economics obviously have shaped everything. The economics of the traditional newspaper business, let's say, over the last, you know, in the 20th century was to have as wide of an audience as possible. That's led to in some ways the rise of objectivity because we're just neutral.

I want to ask about the economics of this new industry. The economics obviously have shaped everything. The economics of the traditional newspaper business, let's say, over the last, you know, in the 20th century was to have as wide of an audience as possible. That's led to in some ways the rise of objectivity because we're just neutral.

We're just telling the facts so that we can have as many eyeballs on our newspaper. We can get as big of advertising dollars as we can get. What are the economic incentives that push the industry in the way that it's forming now?

We're just telling the facts so that we can have as many eyeballs on our newspaper. We can get as big of advertising dollars as we can get. What are the economic incentives that push the industry in the way that it's forming now?

We're just telling the facts so that we can have as many eyeballs on our newspaper. We can get as big of advertising dollars as we can get. What are the economic incentives that push the industry in the way that it's forming now?

Well, Ben, in the description of your podcast, Ben brutally breaks down the culture and never gives an inch. Why brutal?

Well, Ben, in the description of your podcast, Ben brutally breaks down the culture and never gives an inch. Why brutal?

Well, Ben, in the description of your podcast, Ben brutally breaks down the culture and never gives an inch. Why brutal?

But do you think your show would be as successful if it had been kindly breaks down the culture?

But do you think your show would be as successful if it had been kindly breaks down the culture?

But do you think your show would be as successful if it had been kindly breaks down the culture?

So where do you – last question. Where do you see this – Where do you see – do you think this is sort of an anomaly where we are with podcasts and the way that media is forming? Or do you think that this is just the beginning of an even bigger change?

So where do you – last question. Where do you see this – Where do you see – do you think this is sort of an anomaly where we are with podcasts and the way that media is forming? Or do you think that this is just the beginning of an even bigger change?

So where do you – last question. Where do you see this – Where do you see – do you think this is sort of an anomaly where we are with podcasts and the way that media is forming? Or do you think that this is just the beginning of an even bigger change?

Well, thank you both so much for your time. Thank you. Thanks for having us. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Special thanks to Ben and Preet for being here today. We'll be back later this afternoon with a new episode of The Journal. Thanks for listening. See you then. Fox News was mentioned in this episode.

Well, thank you both so much for your time. Thank you. Thanks for having us. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Special thanks to Ben and Preet for being here today. We'll be back later this afternoon with a new episode of The Journal. Thanks for listening. See you then. Fox News was mentioned in this episode.

Well, thank you both so much for your time. Thank you. Thanks for having us. The Journal is a co-production of Spotify and The Wall Street Journal. Special thanks to Ben and Preet for being here today. We'll be back later this afternoon with a new episode of The Journal. Thanks for listening. See you then. Fox News was mentioned in this episode.

And as a reminder, Fox News, parent company, and the parent company of The Wall Street Journal share common ownership.