Ryan Knutson

Okay, we are going to take a quick timeout. And when we come back, we'll talk about how the Supreme Court's immunity ruling for the president last year is impacting things today. And we'll also do a pulse check on the Democrats. The other thing that the Trump administration has been doing in the realm of the legal system is going after individual law firms.

There was this order against Perkins Coie, another one against Paul Weiss that effectively made it impossible for those firms to interact with the federal government. What is the justification, Jess, for these actions? And what impact is it having on the legal system?

There was this order against Perkins Coie, another one against Paul Weiss that effectively made it impossible for those firms to interact with the federal government. What is the justification, Jess, for these actions? And what impact is it having on the legal system?

There was this order against Perkins Coie, another one against Paul Weiss that effectively made it impossible for those firms to interact with the federal government. What is the justification, Jess, for these actions? And what impact is it having on the legal system?

These orders got blocked by a judge, at least for now, but is it having a chilling effect on the legal profession or other law firms?

These orders got blocked by a judge, at least for now, but is it having a chilling effect on the legal profession or other law firms?

These orders got blocked by a judge, at least for now, but is it having a chilling effect on the legal profession or other law firms?

All right. Now, our favorite segment, we have a question from one of our listeners.

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All right. Now, our favorite segment, we have a question from one of our listeners.

Thanks, Matthew.

Thanks, Matthew.

Thanks, Matthew.

Yes, John Roberts.

Yes, John Roberts.

Yes, John Roberts.

He's going to win. All right, great. Thanks so much for your time, Jess. Really appreciate it. You bet. All right, last question for you, Molly, before I let you go. We talked last week about the dilemma Democrats are in over a potential government shutdown. Ultimately, Chuck Schumer and a handful of other Senate Democrats decided to join Republicans and vote to keep the government open.

He's going to win. All right, great. Thanks so much for your time, Jess. Really appreciate it. You bet. All right, last question for you, Molly, before I let you go. We talked last week about the dilemma Democrats are in over a potential government shutdown. Ultimately, Chuck Schumer and a handful of other Senate Democrats decided to join Republicans and vote to keep the government open.

He's going to win. All right, great. Thanks so much for your time, Jess. Really appreciate it. You bet. All right, last question for you, Molly, before I let you go. We talked last week about the dilemma Democrats are in over a potential government shutdown. Ultimately, Chuck Schumer and a handful of other Senate Democrats decided to join Republicans and vote to keep the government open.

There has been a ton of blowback from other Democrats who... very, very strongly disagreed with that decision and felt like it was time to take off the gloves, fight hard, leave it all out on the court, to use another basketball metaphor. What's your take on what's happening here?