Ryan Lee

And like all the empty space is filled in with spirals. Like, is that kind of how bad did it get? Yeah. There is just about not, like, I'm just thinking about it because I think, oh, it's fun to do any job on the film set. I love film sets. And then you described one that would be the worst, like the most horrible. And I'll say maybe this is the spiritual cousin of diligence, but attention.

And like all the empty space is filled in with spirals. Like, is that kind of how bad did it get? Yeah. There is just about not, like, I'm just thinking about it because I think, oh, it's fun to do any job on the film set. I love film sets. And then you described one that would be the worst, like the most horrible. And I'll say maybe this is the spiritual cousin of diligence, but attention.

is not a thing that I tend to have a lot of in these kinds of scenarios because my attention is so fractured. I should say that differently. Attention is something I have a lot of because it's so fractured. Like my attention is in a million different places, in dizzyingly busy scenes for detail, and I miss, as a result, actually a lot.

is not a thing that I tend to have a lot of in these kinds of scenarios because my attention is so fractured. I should say that differently. Attention is something I have a lot of because it's so fractured. Like my attention is in a million different places, in dizzyingly busy scenes for detail, and I miss, as a result, actually a lot.

And I think you have painted a picture of a job that is terrifying to me.

And I think you have painted a picture of a job that is terrifying to me.

Yes.

Yes.

You called me, we texted a little bit yesterday, and you were exhausted. And you still managed to come through with something I needed from you late last night. But my question is, and I think this is part of the discussion of diligence, which is stamina. You put in these incredibly long days, and I'm curious your take on what happens to you. It was 12 and a half hours. Okay, 12 and a half hours.

You called me, we texted a little bit yesterday, and you were exhausted. And you still managed to come through with something I needed from you late last night. But my question is, and I think this is part of the discussion of diligence, which is stamina. You put in these incredibly long days, and I'm curious your take on what happens to you. It was 12 and a half hours. Okay, 12 and a half hours.

And so you put in on these days, what happens to your... to your desire to see it through by hour eight, like how do you muster whatever it takes to be, to be present until the very end? Is it just, you're excited about the job? You like it so much. You got to be there. You made the choice. What is it?

And so you put in on these days, what happens to your... to your desire to see it through by hour eight, like how do you muster whatever it takes to be, to be present until the very end? Is it just, you're excited about the job? You like it so much. You got to be there. You made the choice. What is it?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How many days do you find you can do this kind of thing in a row? Do you have any sense of it? And I'm, and I'm, we're probably asking back to 30 nights because you, you had a number of long days right in a row.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How many days do you find you can do this kind of thing in a row? Do you have any sense of it? And I'm, and I'm, we're probably asking back to 30 nights because you, you had a number of long days right in a row.

Well, you know, that's an interesting – like you joke about it, but the idea of compensating for diligence is the thing that makes diligence so complicated to me. Like we, if diligence is such a cultural norm that we are, you know, that we're, that we work so hard to the point that we have to like compensate for our work habits with substance. Do you know what I mean?

Well, you know, that's an interesting – like you joke about it, but the idea of compensating for diligence is the thing that makes diligence so complicated to me. Like we, if diligence is such a cultural norm that we are, you know, that we're, that we work so hard to the point that we have to like compensate for our work habits with substance. Do you know what I mean?

Like that's the, the problem is that that diligence hyper diligence is workaholism. And that's the thing that makes diligence so confusing, right? It's a virtue and it's,

Like that's the, the problem is that that diligence hyper diligence is workaholism. And that's the thing that makes diligence so confusing, right? It's a virtue and it's,

we at some level we revile it and we talk about how we work life balance is so important and I think it's easier in situations like making a movie because making a movie starts and ends right there's an end to it and you can see it when you are working at making chips in a factory When does that end?

we at some level we revile it and we talk about how we work life balance is so important and I think it's easier in situations like making a movie because making a movie starts and ends right there's an end to it and you can see it when you are working at making chips in a factory When does that end?