Ryan Montgomery

They make them look identical, so...

How can people guard against something like that?

Gotcha.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I got...

I got you a gift, Ryan.

Oh, yeah?

So I was going to wait, but this seems like the perfect time to give it to you.

So one, well, I'll give you the other gift later.

So here you go, since we're talking about public Wi-Fi.

So while you're opening that, let me tell you a story.

All right.

So actually it probably started with you.

I started getting, you know, with the FBI stuff, I started getting very paranoid about who's listening in on my conversations and all that kind of stuff.

And then we went to Taiwan.

We went to Dubai.

We started doing all these overseas interviews.

I know China.

know i was looking for back doors into our stuff so anyways i got super paranoid and i started looking for a real black phone and so what i found was this company glacier and they make a black phone they do a hardened iphone they can do any phone any phone you have you can hand it to them and they will turn it into a hardened device where

It stops data from getting sucked out of you.