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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
But in addition, a bunch of people, and this is what drove me so insane, because I think it's like all parties involved in the academic system hurt students doing this, is that like so many people just assume that when they finally decided to get an industry position, it was going to be trivial.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
And then they didn't find it trivial.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
I think a lot of academic people were like, well, smart people are in academia and the dumb people are in industry.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
So if I need to go compete with the dumb people, it will be easy.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
And I think there was a lot of that.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
But, you know, there was a person, I mean, I gave you an example.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
There was a person who was like effectively a CS professor who I interviewed.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
And this person, like, could not figure out how to pass values between the various functions that they were calling in the interview.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
Like, literally, they were like, what I would do is I would call this function.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
It would print out in the REPL.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
And it would read it as a human.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
And then I would go, like, type it into this other piece of code.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
And I was like, oh, you are better at programming than this, right?
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
Because, like, you're a professor of computer science.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
And they're like, no, no, this is how I work.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
And I was like, oh.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
This is not going to set you up for success if we actually have to get you writing code in broad here.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
I love statistics.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
I think I'll never not love it, but I think it's the craziest field.
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MSL Eng Director: Promo Hacking, Industry Shifts, Regrets | John Myles White
And what I mean by crazy is...