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Ryan Peterman

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1027 total appearances

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The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

And I agree with you.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

I think it's the long-term beneficial thing to do.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

One unusual thing, though, in the industry that I've seen is the incentive system for engineers is actually, I mean, you mentioned the desire for an engineer to want to be seen that they can do something difficult.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

There's that, but there's also the incentive system of promotions.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

And I've had many friends whose promotions were rejected because their work wasn't complex enough.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

And so that kind of forces complexity, which is kind of unusual.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

I wanted to know what you thought about that.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

This really reminds me of something you had written.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

I thought it was really good writing.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

And in the writing, there was this idea of system bias.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

And you have this quote you're writing.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

It says, here's some examples.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

It says, the team is spending six months to improve performance by 10% when it was completely fine to begin with.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

Or the team is trying desperately to force their tooling on clients who don't need it.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

Or the team is riding their outdated system to the grave, like the captain going down on the Titanic.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

Yeah.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

I've definitely seen examples of all those types of things in industry.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

And so, yeah, I think it was in the context of your writing about what you should orient your team around, not systems, but actually missions.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

And maybe that's a way to fight system bias.

The Peterman Pod
Dropbox’s Former Most Senior Eng: Building Great Systems and Advice for the AI Era | James Cowling

If inertia is so strong, how did you fight it and close down all those projects?