Ryan Peterman

So did you ever talk to the Google team while they were doing those things that you thought were so wrong?

So they declined.

Have you seen other examples in other big tech companies where their databases or database solutions where you actively disagree with them, like maybe Amazon or Facebook?

You've influenced industry significantly from academia.

And my one thought that I had is why not work directly in industry?

Or why do you prefer the position of being in academia and having influence in the way that you have?

Versus just taking a job at AWS or something like that, being a very distinguished engineer there.

I wanted to talk a little bit about DBOS.

I just thought it was a really interesting technical model.

Can you explain what DBOS is?

And what's being offered in the market today to application developers differs from the original research project, where that was actually swapping out the guts of an operating system with the database.

I see.

I mean, that's really cool.

I never imagined replacing all the state of an operating system with a database.

There's got to be some trade-off there.

Then why wouldn't Linux incorporate that and upgrade itself with this?

Is that something that you've mentioned to Linux people and what's their typical reaction?

That's interesting.

I mean, if it's objectively true, then maybe it will take over.

I think we talked a lot about the past of databases, and I'm curious your thoughts on unsolved problems in databases and what you think the future might look like.