Ryan Petersen

So had a lot of operational problems and I'm much more of a creative type.

Than I am.

And operators like do the same thing every single day and a little bit better measure every detail.

And that, that it's not like I've gotten good at that, but that's not like naturally who I am, what my background is.

I'm more just like a freewheeling entrepreneur.

So we're looking for a partner to kind of take that on for me and help Flexport mature and grow.

So, yeah, that was in that would have been in 2022 when we really like kind of launched in earnest search for a business partner to help me out the operation side of things.

I was trying to hire a COO and met Dave Clark.

He was the CEO of Amazon.com.

He'd run Amazon's logistics and supply chain for many years.

So it seemed like a great fit, tech and logistics.

We hired a lot of great people.

We still have a lot of good people who worked at Amazon.

Logistics and tech, they're probably the best.

I think we're the best now.

I don't think I could always say that.

I think we keep getting better.

But yeah, Amazon, logistics and tech, that's what they're known for, right?

Well, it was kind of an orderly transition.

When we hired him, it was like, hey, let's have a path for you to become the CEO.