Ryan Petersen

It wasn't because I was burnt out or something.

I just thought he would be better for the company that we needed to mature and be better at operations and better at building tech than we were.

And I'd be better at that.

And Paul had this amazing line.

He said, that's like saying this other guy be a better husband for your wife.

Might be true, but don't act on it.

This is your company.

You need to stay in there.

I thought that was super hilarious.

And he then told me, okay, if he's better than you at these things, and he asked me, is this your life's work?

I heard you say that earlier.

Is this your life's work?

Is Flexport your life's work?

I was like, yeah, it is.

He's like, well, then.

You need to figure out all the things that he's better than you at and go learn them.

Go learn them from him, learn them from other people.

Figure out what are these things that you think he's better than you so you can be the next CEO after he steps back like Larry Page did after he came back.

He hired Eric Schmidt for a decade and then came back.

He's like, you need to go learn those skill sets.