Ryan Petersen

Like this is how a company should be run.

Micromanagement is a bad word.

Toby's the first person I ever heard that from.

Like, it's not a bad, it's like a great thing.

Get involved.

You know, why would you ever want?

Like micromanagement and attention to detail, two words for the same thing, right?

Attention to detail is great.

Like your boss is involved in your stuff.

Like that's only a problem if your boss is an idiot and out of touch and making bad decisions.

But like if your boss like genuinely cares about your work, is involved, in tune, knows what you're doing, has good judgment, like why would you not want them looking over your shoulder and participating with you in what you're doing?

Yeah.

But Flashboard is a much, I don't know.

I don't know.

I've never worked at another company really, but it's compared to other businesses, I think far more complex.

So it's hard.

It's really actually quite hard for me to live up to Chesky's ideal of like, I think he says like, if the company should only do as many things as the founder can be personally involved in, it's a nice ideal.

It doesn't work at my company.

We're like in business.

all these different countries and all these different modes of transport that like one person can't actually keep it all in their head.