Ryan Reynolds

That information, that important clue, it stands out to me so much about this episode because the worst part of cases like this that we cover, at least I think, are the ones that involve children. And when you have a child, I always like to tell people, cases like this, they don't happen and then investigators research it for a week and then the case is solved in two weeks.

Yeah, exactly. It takes years, courtrooms, the little child having to tell the story probably several times. and all the trauma that she's gone through in all of this. And that's what's so harrowing about this story, Deborah, that you did.

Yeah, exactly. It takes years, courtrooms, the little child having to tell the story probably several times. and all the trauma that she's gone through in all of this. And that's what's so harrowing about this story, Deborah, that you did.

I really want people to see it because I want them to understand not only the effect of a case like this and how the emotions and the love of a situation can make things turn so wrong, but also the involvement of children in some of this.

I really want people to see it because I want them to understand not only the effect of a case like this and how the emotions and the love of a situation can make things turn so wrong, but also the involvement of children in some of this.

Yes. The reason you're doing this podcast is so helpful for a lot of people because what they do is they see our stories and then they want to say, I saw it and you helped tell it. So you got to tell me more. And so I'm like, OK, so this and that. And then we go through it and then they want to dissect it. They want to know more behind the scenes. Exactly.

Yes. The reason you're doing this podcast is so helpful for a lot of people because what they do is they see our stories and then they want to say, I saw it and you helped tell it. So you got to tell me more. And so I'm like, OK, so this and that. And then we go through it and then they want to dissect it. They want to know more behind the scenes. Exactly.

So they're going to love this because they want to know as much as they can about the stories. And that's what makes this work so powerful, I think, Deborah. I don't know how you feel about it, but it's true crime for a reason. Crime that we watch on TV, CSI, things like that. Those are interesting.

So they're going to love this because they want to know as much as they can about the stories. And that's what makes this work so powerful, I think, Deborah. I don't know how you feel about it, but it's true crime for a reason. Crime that we watch on TV, CSI, things like that. Those are interesting.

But when it actually happened in real life, you almost can't believe it happened and you want to know more.

But when it actually happened in real life, you almost can't believe it happened and you want to know more.

I feel the same way. For all these interviews, especially when we're dealing with people who've lost someone, I try to look at it first like I'm trying to honor them first. So, for example, if I'm interviewing someone who's lost a loved one, I want them to be able to tell the story of their loved one. And what I do a lot of times is I'll stop if they feel and I'll try to say, are you okay?

I feel the same way. For all these interviews, especially when we're dealing with people who've lost someone, I try to look at it first like I'm trying to honor them first. So, for example, if I'm interviewing someone who's lost a loved one, I want them to be able to tell the story of their loved one. And what I do a lot of times is I'll stop if they feel and I'll try to say, are you okay?

Do you want to share more? How do you feel? I understand that we have a desire to tell as much of the story as we can, but I also feel like it's their story to tell. So for me, I always take it from a place of how can we help you best express what you feel about what happened?

Do you want to share more? How do you feel? I understand that we have a desire to tell as much of the story as we can, but I also feel like it's their story to tell. So for me, I always take it from a place of how can we help you best express what you feel about what happened?

I love that. And I love it when people, a lot of sometimes people say to me, hey, thank you for doing it that way. And that really makes me feel good. If they can feel at the end of it, some good has come out of this for them, then I feel like I've done what I'm supposed to do.

I love that. And I love it when people, a lot of sometimes people say to me, hey, thank you for doing it that way. And that really makes me feel good. If they can feel at the end of it, some good has come out of this for them, then I feel like I've done what I'm supposed to do.

One that really stands out to me is this story called Doomsday Bride. It's a case that a lot of people may know of, a woman named Lori Vallow Daybell. She was involved with a man, Chad Daybell. This was a very big story for a very long time. She's in a relationship, and it's sort of a twisted story. She uprooted her life to be with Chad, and Chad is this doomsday preacher.

One that really stands out to me is this story called Doomsday Bride. It's a case that a lot of people may know of, a woman named Lori Vallow Daybell. She was involved with a man, Chad Daybell. This was a very big story for a very long time. She's in a relationship, and it's sort of a twisted story. She uprooted her life to be with Chad, and Chad is this doomsday preacher.

He talks about the end of times, and Lori becomes a believer herself, and then her children go missing. So Lori recently faced a new charge in Arizona, and she was found guilty of conspiracy to commit murder for the death of her fourth husband, Charles Vallow. She served as her own attorney in that case.