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Ryan Sean Adams

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Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

So they didn't say that they were leaving the Layer 2 ecosystem.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

They didn't even imply that.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

Or did they?

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

Some people are interpreting that

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

There's something here that might imply in the future BASE is carving out some space for them to become their own, say, Tempo-style EVM Layer 1.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

One of them is an argument from Gabe Shapiro, a crypto lawyer.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

What does he say?

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ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

And my understanding is they could get there by decentralizing their sequencer rather than that being base run.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

But at the point that you decentralize your sequencer, right?

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

The question is like, well, you have to start incenting other sequencers outside of Coinbase with some sort of token, you know, staking.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

And then maybe you just do the whole consensus layer as well.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

I think that's some of the logic here, which is like,

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

I mean, what's the point really in being a stage one roll-up at that point?

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

You may as well just decentralize everything and like so-called decentralize everything in air quotes, which means like run your own consensus layer and do kind of the tempo playbook.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

He continues, he said, I wonder what Coinbase will do here.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

Either go with the Kraken approach and Kraken is pursuing based roll-ups for Inc.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

Okay, so that means...

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

Basically, Ethereum layer one will be the decentralized sequencer layer, and that passes all the tests for decentralization.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

Or they could roll their own layer one and create a validator set and go the Tempo, Canton, you know, circle arc approach.

Bankless
ROLLUP: Prediction Market War | Base Leaves Optimism | Tomasz Exits EF | Clarity Act Lives | Harvard Buys ETH

So that's what the speculation here is.