Ryan Sean Adams

So as soon as you have the network effective users, then you have lock-in.

And now you can start squeezing and exploiting them and they won't leave.

Those are the two playbooks, which I optimistically think, oh, we won't do that again.

We'll figure something else out this time around.

Yeah, it's the worst in terms of...

In terms of how much Google relies on that kind of extractive squeezing of value out of its users.

It just relies on that so much.

And it might not be sustainable, right?

At a very zoomed out level, I don't want to be negative or cynical, but you might just say, oh, like crypto came along.

And for 10 years or so, people poured a bunch of money into a bunch of experiments and then they didn't get their money back.

And so they stopped that.

We moved on to the next phase of human life.

But hopefully we can get some sustainable ongoing feedback loops of the same kind of thing.

Yeah, I agree.

I agree.

Right.

Me personally, I'm not so... I'm more... What's it like to be me?

Forget that question.

I'm going to go back to what... Okay, the first question.

Yeah, exactly.