Ryan Sean Adams

You know, the code is not that great.

Yeah, this is Sterling Crispin saying this Web4 Conway system is infraponzy.

It's not self-sovereign in any sense whatsoever.

I think he's critiquing that the, you know, cloud basically runs on, you know, cloud servers, LLM.

It's not a self-sovereign AI in, you know, that kind of definition.

But there are parts of it that kind of are,

And the mission of all of these automatons can be like sustain yourself, build products to earn funds to spend on compute.

I mean, there's something here that, I don't know, is new and seems different.

I do feel like we should dig into this project.

But as we were recording this, Vitalik actually replied and weighed in on this project.

What's Vitalik's take?

Okay, I get it.

But Vitalik is also the person who pioneered the unstoppable world computer, right?

I guess, you know, this goes back to our conversation.

I felt like when I saw this project, again, it could be performance art, but at some point, one of these things is going to be real.

But our conversation with Eliezer Kowski, who brought the fear of God into us about AI, and it's kind of the realization as we were recording that episode, oh my God, we created a property rights and money system for an AI agent.

I don't know.

I don't think it's, I think it's pretty grim right now.

I think he definitely feels like he's living, like, watching a bunch of lemmings run off a cliff is probably his daily feeling around this.

Lastly, David, this is kind of a cool project.