Ryan Sean Adams

That would be fine, I guess.

It would be good if it was actually improving the lives of people in a way that I care about, which it could, but it hasn't yet.

Does that answer your question from my perspective?

Well, it's definitely the cypherpunk vision and in particular the Moxie Marlinspike's version.

Do you know Moxie Marlinspike, the maker of Signal?

I don't.

Oh, yes, yes.

Here's this crazy anarchist hacker.

I'm pretty sure it's okay if I say this on the record, but Moxie was a crazy anarchist hacker.

And for some reason, I don't know how, he realized he saw something that other people didn't, which was that the cypherpunk dream was stuck on UX.

And he got an award one year for the best cryptographic innovation of the year in cryptography.

And he gave a talk, but he required everyone to turn off their cameras so there's no recording.

So my vague memories of this are the only evidence we have left.

In his talk, he said, the cypherpunks have totally failed.

This was years ago.

And he was talking about the original cypherpunks, right?

Like, yeah.

Right.

And he said the program, the method of the cyberpunks was like step one, we'll make tools that work well for us.

And then step two, we'll teach everyone else in the world to be like us.