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Ryan Sean Adams

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And it's also non-digital, so it's not susceptible to any type of a hack.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

let's say, whereas Bitcoin and Ethereum, they're software.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

I know when I hear monetary economists and investor Ray Dalio talk about cryptocurrencies, he always brings that up.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

He's like, I like gold because it can't be hacked.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

There's no quantum threat in the future.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Whereas with the Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, I'm not so certain of that.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

They have that risk factor because they're software.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So I do think gold, you're right in saying that gold does win the durability case here in Menger's attributes.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

How about verifiability?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Fully audible on-chain.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

I don't know if this next attribute was part of Menger's attributes, which is censorship resistance.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

It is in your table, though.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Does he mention censorship resistance?

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Okay, so all this to say, it seems that ETH does fit the core attributes for what Menger would think of as a good money.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

The way Bitcoin partially does and the way gold certainly does, I think your argument is that ETH has all of these attributes as well.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

And that's the money side of the argument.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

Yes, exactly.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

I guess it's important to note that the toll fees are a source of exogenous demand or exogenous utility, let's say.

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

So some people will point at kind of the productive yield part of ETH and they'll just say, oh, that's just...

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Productive Money: The Most Bullish Case for Ethereum ($250K) | Michael McGuiness & Vivek Raman

ETH being passed from non-staked ETH, you know, just regular ETH to, you know, ETH that's staked essentially.