Ryan Sean Adams

That's what Bitcoiners will say about Bitcoin.

They'll say the fact that Bitcoin isn't useful for anything other than a money, it doesn't generate any yield.

It's not productive at all.

That actually makes it

a better money, Mike.

Can you talk about that?

Why is productive money actually going to outcompete something that is just like singular in use case?

Vivek, you've been very patient as Mike has explained his thesis and this essay so far, productive money.

And I think he's done a great job doing that.

This is one of the best pieces I've ever read about Ether, the asset, I think.

And so we'll include a link in the show notes, encourage everyone to go read it, go check it out.

There's also a website that's going to be up.

It's called ProductiveMoney.org, guys.

Yeah, ProductiveMoney.

Yeah, ProductiveMoney.org.

Okay.

And that's where you could see the thesis laid out in even more simple form.

But Vivek, this idea of Ether as productive money, I know you have conversations all the time with Wall Street folks, with large institutions.

How close are they to seeing ETH as productive money?

What dots do they still need to connect?