Ryder Strong

was really off his like rocker and like targeting women because they were enticing him.

You know, like saying like that woman is sent here from Satan and because she's dressing and you're like, dude, you're just attracted to her, let it go.

It's not her fault.

And coach didn't draw the line and say like, oh, this guy's probably gonna say, he instead leaned into it, used religiosity to keep them tighter and said, let's all pray before every challenge is.

And I find that really despicable.

i agree he made it to the end he made it to the end he did not win the jury did not get him um it was a woman who who sort also just sort of attached herself to him knowing that he might get to the end and she was smart and she won but um that's always turned me against coach he's he's manipulative and he he i think he crossed the line there you know going too far into like using religion to to rally this team of people on his side they did very well though they won right and he

And by sticking with that group of five, because it is true, if you have a group of five and you never, no matter what, turn on each other, you can make it all the way to the end pretty much, especially back in those days.

Now it's gotten more complicated because of the rules that they've introduced with advantages.

I actually don't know that distinction technically.

I believe it was a shift in the way the game... I don't know technically.

Yeah, so honestly, I had the same question.

I was sort of like, maybe one of our producers could jump in with a thought.

But I believe it has something to do...

I believe the problem with Survivor when it started was that the men would dominate the entire first half of the game because the challenges were so physical.

Right.

And the men would end up winning.

And so women were getting eliminated like just...

You know, even the first couple rounds and challenges.

And so I believe at some point they decided to institute more puzzles and to make the social game more.

Yeah.