RZA

I want to talk all about the film.

I watched it last night, by the way.

So you said that ODB is the ultimate expression of freedom.

Yeah.

Is that the magnetism of him?

i think so because i remember i mean i'm sure you remember the moment where it's like it was like mtv was obsessed with him he had crossed over too and i don't know if you could write that not you of course you could but like the average person i don't know if they could just write down why they love this guy but but it was a visceral reaction before you could like game algorithm and like promote something like

I don't even know if MTV was going, is this the right thing to promote?

Right.

It didn't even matter.

Right.

It didn't matter.

You could make the argument that he was doing everything for them not to promote him.

And it was working.

Right.

Right.

It was like true.

rock star shit.

And not rock star in, like, the contrived version where you've seen rock stars try to pretend to be rock stars.

Right.

Like, okay, like, my forefathers, you know, put all the furniture in the hotel room on the ceiling, so I'm gonna do that.