Róisín Ingle

I am quite equanimous about it.

And I think it's because of that.

Yeah, I think, isn't it, Rudyard Kipling's poem, If, isn't there a line in that about that?

We treated those imposters both the same, something like that.

Which is very difficult to do.

It is.

It feels like it's not natural, doesn't it?

It feels like that's not a natural way to be.

Celebrate your wins.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But it's a great way to live because that is life.

Life is, I'm going to quote Ronan Keating.

What I'm saying is the condition that you described earlier is this constant flux and up and down, right?

And to actually ride that in the way of like, oh my God, I'm going to be sick now because it's this really steep hill or I'm going to be really high because it's a very exhausting way to live.

And I realized very soon when I when I was told that I had stage four cancer and it was on my bones and, you know, that I didn't know what was going to happen, that if I was going to experience this very, you know, unusual for me, unusual and difficult.

And if I was going to be reacting to every little twist and turn that happened, this is going to be really hard.

I kind of got that intuitively.

And I think I got it because I had that physical experience of going through Vipassana.

Now, I really, I'm saying this to you now, but honestly, I haven't really connected it as much.

It's only recently I've started to think about it.