Róisín Ingle

the troubles traumatised particularly women and how it might, you know, if you extend to that, how it would affect them.

Because like we've been talking recently on the podcast about the femicide rates in Northern Ireland and how high they are.

I think the second highest in Europe and higher than lots of places in the world.

And that has been one effect of the violent sort of nature of the troubles on women particularly.

You mentioned before a play that you saw, I think, in the Belfast Mac by the Women's Coalition and their role in the peace process.

Tell me about that because it's fascinating because they were kind of looking, it was back then around the peace process time and they were looking ahead to what Northern Ireland would be like, but it hasn't really panned out that way.

And they were looking ahead to integrated schools and the peace walls being down and all these things that haven't happened.

You mentioned earlier that there's a bit of you in Marion who's quite sort of secluded and trying to find her way as a woman.

Your own growing up, you've spoken to us before about it.

I think you were on the podcast, it's probably eight years ago, something like that.

We've all been around for a long time.

Well, I certainly have.

I'm older than you.

Don't worry.

But you grew up in Ballymena.

You had quite an interesting background from our perspective because it was very evangelical, very Bible thumping and quite in its own way, a bit of a bubble, really, that you grew up in.

Say that again, Jan.

And apologies for using that word, because you're right, it is a stereotype and it's a pastiche and it's not helpful.

And I think it is a really interesting community to write about.

And actually, you've been alone.