Saagar Enjeti

get them to the table.

It seems to have been very influential to the new Ayatollah and to the Supreme National Security Council in Iran.

What do you make here of China's role in explicitly pushing this role towards a ceasefire and in some ways working as some sort of an intermediary or almost guarantor of parts of Iranian national security and energy policy?

Right.

You know, sir, I want to get your reaction to some of the later breaking news here out of Washington.

There is an alleged comment by Mark Rutt saying,

that he told NATO countries that they must dispatch warships or Donald Trump will threaten some sort of action against NATO.

How do you see the likelihood of this considering NATO's straddling game that they've been playing?

They've been supportive of the United States.

They've also been largely supportive of the U.S.

aims, at the very least, rhetorically, in some sort of Iranian regime change or ballistic missile reduction, but also not wanting to get involved in the crisis.

How are they going to handle this if the U.S.

continues to try and put pressure on them to deploy warships, even now in the midst of a ceasefire, to the Straits of Hormuz?

Me too.

Wow.

Stark warning, but as great, always good analysis.

Thank you very much, sir.

We appreciate your time.

Thank you.

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