Sabrina Rodriguez

Obviously, he was successful in that as he won the presidency.

So Democrats have had a hard time navigating the politics of immigration, how to talk about it.

They want to have a humane policy while at the same time enforcing immigration laws or navigating border security.

So

There's a lot of conversations in Washington right now about reforming ICE.

But what the scope of that looks like really varies from Democrat to Democrat.

And I think they do not want to fall into what led to Trump being able to harness the issue in the first place.

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