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Sabrina Tavernisi

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The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

From The New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tavernisi, and this is The Daily. As the Middle East braces for another year of extreme heat, longtime war correspondent Alyssa Rubin goes to Iraq, one of the hottest places on Earth, and tells the story of a new source of conflict, water. Today, Iraq's water crisis and what it means for the world. It's Tuesday, May 6th. Alyssa, you are a war reporter.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

From The New York Times, I'm Sabrina Tavernisi, and this is The Daily. As the Middle East braces for another year of extreme heat, longtime war correspondent Alyssa Rubin goes to Iraq, one of the hottest places on Earth, and tells the story of a new source of conflict, water. Today, Iraq's water crisis and what it means for the world. It's Tuesday, May 6th. Alyssa, you are a war reporter.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

You spent over two decades covering Iraq, starting with the U.S. invasion in 2003. You and I were there together. We reported on many crises in Iraq, the war over all of those years. I left and you stayed. And you've recently turned your attention to a different kind of crisis. Tell us about that reporting.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

You spent over two decades covering Iraq, starting with the U.S. invasion in 2003. You and I were there together. We reported on many crises in Iraq, the war over all of those years. I left and you stayed. And you've recently turned your attention to a different kind of crisis. Tell us about that reporting.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

So it became very clear to you that water should be your focus, that water was going to be the big problem going forward.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

So it became very clear to you that water should be your focus, that water was going to be the big problem going forward.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

Wow.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

Wow.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

So they literally disassemble their houses.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

So they literally disassemble their houses.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

What's an example of a place emptying out like that, of people moving?

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

What's an example of a place emptying out like that, of people moving?

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

So the village was literally disappearing from the map, in a way. The people were leaving it, and it was turning into dust. Yes.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

So the village was literally disappearing from the map, in a way. The people were leaving it, and it was turning into dust. Yes.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

We'll be right back. So the land is drying up. Farming is becoming untenable as a way of life. And people are fleeing their villages. You set out to see where they were going. Tell me about that.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

We'll be right back. So the land is drying up. Farming is becoming untenable as a way of life. And people are fleeing their villages. You set out to see where they were going. Tell me about that.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

So the upshot here for people who move like this is pretty grim. I mean, essentially they're impoverishing themselves by moving.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

So the upshot here for people who move like this is pretty grim. I mean, essentially they're impoverishing themselves by moving.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

Right. It's not necessarily because they've become believers in it. So in other words, a lot more young people, particularly young men, unattached and kind of unmoored, who, because of this water problem, are potentially fertile ground for recruitment. Yes, that's right. So, Alyssa, what can Iraq do? It seems pretty stuck.

The Daily
A Climate Warning From the Fertile Crescent

Right. It's not necessarily because they've become believers in it. So in other words, a lot more young people, particularly young men, unattached and kind of unmoored, who, because of this water problem, are potentially fertile ground for recruitment. Yes, that's right. So, Alyssa, what can Iraq do? It seems pretty stuck.

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