Sabrina Tavernisi

And I want to unpack it with you. So how did this forever regime in Syria suddenly, shockingly just disappear overnight. Where should we start to explain that?

And I want to unpack it with you. So how did this forever regime in Syria suddenly, shockingly just disappear overnight. Where should we start to explain that?

OK, so that is also when Syria starts to get really complicated. So lay that out for me, Carlotta. What starts to happen?

OK, so that is also when Syria starts to get really complicated. So lay that out for me, Carlotta. What starts to happen?

And why do Iran and Russia enter the war like that?

And why do Iran and Russia enter the war like that?

So bottom line, Syria becomes this kind of cauldron of geopolitical rivalries.

So bottom line, Syria becomes this kind of cauldron of geopolitical rivalries.

So how do we get from that deadlocked civil war to the rapid toppling of Assad that everybody just watched unfold?

So how do we get from that deadlocked civil war to the rapid toppling of Assad that everybody just watched unfold?

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That's really interesting because it probably means he had some pretty serious jihadist credentials. But he clearly got out of prison. What did he do next?

That's really interesting because it probably means he had some pretty serious jihadist credentials. But he clearly got out of prison. What did he do next?

Yeah, that's what I want to know. I mean, can one be former al-Qaeda? Like, how does that even work?

Yeah, that's what I want to know. I mean, can one be former al-Qaeda? Like, how does that even work?

And how were they for women? How is life for women there, often an indicator with Islamic regimes?

And how were they for women? How is life for women there, often an indicator with Islamic regimes?

So it sounds like not quite Taliban-like, but some hard edges. Yes, I would say that, exactly that. So in other words, very unclear what this group could mean for the future of Syria, or even really if it's going to be the future of Syria.

So it sounds like not quite Taliban-like, but some hard edges. Yes, I would say that, exactly that. So in other words, very unclear what this group could mean for the future of Syria, or even really if it's going to be the future of Syria.