Sabrina Tavernisi

So it's very hard to cut government programs. You have shown that amply. But beyond the programs, what about cutting the federal workforce itself?

So it's very hard to cut government programs. You have shown that amply. But beyond the programs, what about cutting the federal workforce itself?

Right. So you're maybe following your political agenda, but you're not really doing the main work, which is making government more efficient.

Right. So you're maybe following your political agenda, but you're not really doing the main work, which is making government more efficient.

Okay, so bottom line, very difficult to make cuts anywhere near the scale that Musk is talking about. Cutting the budget and even the size of the federal workforce will be very hard. But what about this idea of reducing government regulation?

Okay, so bottom line, very difficult to make cuts anywhere near the scale that Musk is talking about. Cutting the budget and even the size of the federal workforce will be very hard. But what about this idea of reducing government regulation?

Right, and they don't have to defer to the federal government.

Right, and they don't have to defer to the federal government.

So their central argument of how they're going to pull off this efficiency thing kind of doesn't hold water.

So their central argument of how they're going to pull off this efficiency thing kind of doesn't hold water.

And of course, do they even agree among themselves on all of this stuff? I mean, as you've described here, it doesn't sound like they're all going to be rowing in the same direction.

And of course, do they even agree among themselves on all of this stuff? I mean, as you've described here, it doesn't sound like they're all going to be rowing in the same direction.

But as you said, we do have a budget deficit crisis. The country could benefit from addressing it.

But as you said, we do have a budget deficit crisis. The country could benefit from addressing it.

So given all of that, David, what's the best case scenario here? I mean, in terms of what Doge might actually get done?

So given all of that, David, what's the best case scenario here? I mean, in terms of what Doge might actually get done?

In other words, this just becomes another chapter in the government's struggle to contain the problem.

In other words, this just becomes another chapter in the government's struggle to contain the problem.

David, thank you.

David, thank you.