Saikat Chakrabarti

I think that was part of the problem. You know, in the context of a larger economy, you can't just say one little high-speed rail line, right? And they also funded Solyndra and Tesla, as you point out in the book, right? But they only wanted to do those two projects, and they just focused on the failure of Solyndra rather than the huge success of Tesla.

I think that was part of the problem. You know, in the context of a larger economy, you can't just say one little high-speed rail line, right? And they also funded Solyndra and Tesla, as you point out in the book, right? But they only wanted to do those two projects, and they just focused on the failure of Solyndra rather than the huge success of Tesla.

Well, that guarantee program funded more than just those two, right? Yeah, but those are the big ones.

Well, that guarantee program funded more than just those two, right? Yeah, but those are the big ones.

I think it's actually important to remember that for most of the cases in the 20th century, it wasn't under a war or some kind of emergence like that. You know, there was usually some political party that came into power, you know, in Western Europe or in South Korea that really just pitched the mission of let's get rich. You know, let's make society rich.

I think it's actually important to remember that for most of the cases in the 20th century, it wasn't under a war or some kind of emergence like that. You know, there was usually some political party that came into power, you know, in Western Europe or in South Korea that really just pitched the mission of let's get rich. You know, let's make society rich.

Finland did this after the fall of the Berlin Wall in like the 80s and 90s. And that was pretty recent. So it's possible for a politics to come in and say the mission is... Our society has been kind of declining. We're stuck. People's wages have been stagnating. And we actually need to fix that. And I actually think the politics is already almost there.

Finland did this after the fall of the Berlin Wall in like the 80s and 90s. And that was pretty recent. So it's possible for a politics to come in and say the mission is... Our society has been kind of declining. We're stuck. People's wages have been stagnating. And we actually need to fix that. And I actually think the politics is already almost there.

I think that's what people thought they're voting for with Obama and with Trump and to an extent with Biden. Biden really campaigned on a bit of a mission. And it was in a crisis. And it was in a crisis. Which increased people's ambitions by quite a bit. Yeah.

I think that's what people thought they're voting for with Obama and with Trump and to an extent with Biden. Biden really campaigned on a bit of a mission. And it was in a crisis. And it was in a crisis. Which increased people's ambitions by quite a bit. Yeah.

And I think I think there's just been this general sense that whatever the current political order is, is not delivering the promise that people have had, you know, that America made of people in the postwar era. So we're looking for something new that's going to start delivering that again.

And I think I think there's just been this general sense that whatever the current political order is, is not delivering the promise that people have had, you know, that America made of people in the postwar era. So we're looking for something new that's going to start delivering that again.

So I think the real challenge actually is for a political leader to come in and really pitch the whole thing. Operation Warp Speed happened during a crisis, but it wasn't big enough. It was like one small mission. We have done a lot of little small missions. We just need Operation Warp Speed for everything.

So I think the real challenge actually is for a political leader to come in and really pitch the whole thing. Operation Warp Speed happened during a crisis, but it wasn't big enough. It was like one small mission. We have done a lot of little small missions. We just need Operation Warp Speed for everything.

And it's through that mission that I think you figure out what the new rules and institutions should be. It wasn't like... We threw out all the rules during World War II. There was tons of paperwork, you know, and the companies complained constantly about all the paperwork they had to do.

And it's through that mission that I think you figure out what the new rules and institutions should be. It wasn't like... We threw out all the rules during World War II. There was tons of paperwork, you know, and the companies complained constantly about all the paperwork they had to do.

But we had the War Production Board and, you know, Don Nelson would be going around trying to figure out what paperwork is actually creating a bottleneck and what paperwork is necessary, right? And that's something we need to be able to do at the agency level.

But we had the War Production Board and, you know, Don Nelson would be going around trying to figure out what paperwork is actually creating a bottleneck and what paperwork is necessary, right? And that's something we need to be able to do at the agency level.

I'll say Destructive Creation by Mark Wilson is probably the most detailed book I read about the actual mobilization during World War II. I've read the book. When you read what they did, it is shocking. It's amazing. It's really amazing.

I'll say Destructive Creation by Mark Wilson is probably the most detailed book I read about the actual mobilization during World War II. I've read the book. When you read what they did, it is shocking. It's amazing. It's really amazing.