Saint Jhn
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Podcast Appearances
Oh, I got it.
Oh, I got it.
Oh, I got it. I'm not invisible. You hear me. You can't even avoid me through the thing that I'm trying to hide myself behind to be in service of somebody else's.
Oh, I got it. I'm not invisible. You hear me. You can't even avoid me through the thing that I'm trying to hide myself behind to be in service of somebody else's.
And that changed me. And then the first time I'd written, like I got the Usher record. and I guess a year or so had passed. I think there was a time period between the Usher record and Closing My Eyes, if I remember correctly, the Usher record and then a song that I wrote called Roses, which was intended for Beyonce. That was the intended target. So I'm just songwriting at this point.
And that changed me. And then the first time I'd written, like I got the Usher record. and I guess a year or so had passed. I think there was a time period between the Usher record and Closing My Eyes, if I remember correctly, the Usher record and then a song that I wrote called Roses, which was intended for Beyonce. That was the intended target. So I'm just songwriting at this point.
I'm at my producer, who's a friend of mine, his name is Fallen. I'm in his bedroom in Bushwick and we're making these records in his bedroom. And they were like, yo, yo, whoever the A&R was at the time was like, yo, we need records. We need ideas for B. And I was like, okay, cool. I know what I want her to do. That's what I was thinking.
I'm at my producer, who's a friend of mine, his name is Fallen. I'm in his bedroom in Bushwick and we're making these records in his bedroom. And they were like, yo, yo, whoever the A&R was at the time was like, yo, we need records. We need ideas for B. And I was like, okay, cool. I know what I want her to do. That's what I was thinking.
Like, all right, as a fan, this is where I want her to go next. This is unexplained territory. So I wrote Roses. And it was in between writing Roses and writing Crash for Usher. And we sent Roses in. And I think there was no response at first. And then there was a response like, nah, this isn't it. Whatever it was, I'm butchering whatever the language it came back.
Like, all right, as a fan, this is where I want her to go next. This is unexplained territory. So I wrote Roses. And it was in between writing Roses and writing Crash for Usher. And we sent Roses in. And I think there was no response at first. And then there was a response like, nah, this isn't it. Whatever it was, I'm butchering whatever the language it came back.
But I knew that I believed in the song so much that I was clear. I was like, oh, they don't hear it. Yes. Oh, they don't hear it. That doesn't mean this isn't what I think it is. That just means they don't hear it. Right. There's nothing wrong with that. And if I think this is what I think it is, then it's for me. I'll go put it out.
But I knew that I believed in the song so much that I was clear. I was like, oh, they don't hear it. Yes. Oh, they don't hear it. That doesn't mean this isn't what I think it is. That just means they don't hear it. Right. There's nothing wrong with that. And if I think this is what I think it is, then it's for me. I'll go put it out.
And I did that. I think it was 2016 when that conversation happened and I put it out in 2017.
And I did that. I think it was 2016 when that conversation happened and I put it out in 2017.
I think a bunch of things changed my life because if I had just put that song out in 2017 and sat down, nothing would have happened. Right.
I think a bunch of things changed my life because if I had just put that song out in 2017 and sat down, nothing would have happened. Right.