Saleem Ismail

Everybody loses.

It would have been way better if they could have settled this.

in a separate way, but nobody wants to settle in that environment.

Regarding for-profit, non-profit, we're entering a post-capitalist society over time.

At some point, money doesn't make sense, in which case, your moonshot can be a non-profit, and in fact, it should be a non-profit.

The chase for money will corrupt

the target in many, many cases.

The ones that are succeeding, Elon, for example, really doesn't give a damn about money.

It's just it's the cleanest structure that gets you to what you need to achieve.

If a nonprofit would get you there, you'd do it as a nonprofit, right?

You'd also have less hassle about pay packages and all the rest of it.

Maybe eventually.

You're assuming, hold on, hold on.

If you haven't a true MTP, then you don't really care about the money.

And it's not a motivating factor.

You're really interested in achieving the goal, in which case, whatever the cleanest structure that achieves that will get you there.

In this case, for now, capitalism, a for-profit fine, you can raise money on the public markets.

You need that energy to get you going.

But I think we're going to enter a point at some point, I'll say two, three years, where it won't make sense anymore.

No, no, this is an important conversation.