Salida Reynolds

So there's a lot, but we have what we have, it's fixed.

So that congestion that you experience, that's too much demand for a fixed amount of space.

For the most part, those algorithmic sort of calculations for how much green time one street gets versus the other and that balancing, it's pretty fixed by the time of day and the day of the week and so on and so forth.

But there are moments when unpredictable things happen and the sensors have a certain amount of intelligence and they're able to perceive those changes and reallocate things in real time and

And then sometimes the system becomes so strained that it breaks and you have to have a human in the loop to intervene and actually manage it manually.

And that human needs to be connected to all of the other humans that are there to make things work.

But to move this many cars and this large of a system that has this much complexity and variation, you have to have all of those things at the same time.

It is.

And it's also, we're talking about people's lives, right?

That's one of the reasons why people love transportation is because it has such an immediate effect on people's lives.

And so part of what you're also doing is...

trying to figure out the tolerance that exists across the system for delay or frustration.

And so you're having to sort of consider how pain is being spread around.

And you're having to sort of accept that in order to balance things, everybody has to share the pain a little bit.

And you're also making a judgment call.

So on the main drag, there may be

Let's say 45 or 50,000 people a day that are driving on that main street.

On the cross streets, you have a much smaller number of people.

And so you're going to privilege the greatest good for the greatest number, right?

You're going to privilege the 50,000 people on the main line.