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Sally French

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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

Yeah, please.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

Let's do it.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

Let's talk about why that wasn't sustainable.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

So the bank that issued this card, Wells Fargo, didn't have a lot of ways to make money for it,

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

Remember, the annual fee on this card was $0.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

Yes.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

So they're not getting money that way.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

Many of the cardholders probably weren't carrying a balance.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

They're paying off their five bananas.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

Exactly.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

So they're not paying these interest fees or late fees to the bank.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

So they're not making money that way either.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

The only way to make money was on transaction fees.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

And like you said, some people were only making five purchases a month on their card.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

Transaction fee is just a percentage of what you pay.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

So cardholders are earning tons of points on rent and the bank was losing out.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

According to the Wall Street Journal, Wells Fargo was reportedly losing $10 million a month on this card.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

I know.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

It wasn't going to last forever.

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast
Bilt Card 2.0 and the Points Math: What’s a “Good” Return in 2026?

Absolutely.