Sally McMullen

Wait, you spilt coffee on yourself this morning.

Did you miss the train this morning?

No, I didn't.

I got an Uber because I was carrying those things.

Okay.

I was like, wait, has this become, wait, do you feel like you're flopping right now?

No, I'm in my sleepy, sleepy era.

Your sleepy era?

But yeah, I don't think, I think, yeah, definitely.

But like you were saying, I do think that they've been for the best and that they're so character building.

I know that's a cliche, but I do think it's true.

And we were speaking to somebody or we heard something the other day and I'm trying to remember who said it.

You might be able to remember because we were both there.

But somebody said that it's really hard because so often when you work on something, you work just as hard if it flops or if it succeeds.

Do you want to know what it was?

Who said it?

Alan Menken.

Yeah, sorry about that.

Yeah.

It was actually really interesting because he was talking about his career and obviously he has had so many incredible moments like wrote the orchestral score for The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast.