Sally Wainwright

She kind of outgrew it and stopped.

And I just never stopped.

I just literally never stopped.

So you did it all through secondary school and university?

English literature.

I wrote dialogue since from being about 11 because I kind of thought it was the most important thing.

When I read novels, I'd never seen a play written down, but I was writing dialogue before I kind of knew what a play was.

Because whenever I read a novel, I thought all the other stuff was boring, all the descriptions.

I thought you didn't need that.

You just need to know what people are saying.

So that's what excited me most.

I realised I was a sort of dramatist without even realising I was.

Yeah, as I say, I went down to London because people said, if you want to be a writer, you've got to go and live in London, which isn't true anymore, but it was then.

And I didn't have any money, didn't have a job.

I managed to get a room in a house with a friend from university.

One friend said to me, oh, you should apply to join the civil service.

And another friend said, oh, you like driving.

Why don't you apply to be a bus driver?

They also need bus drivers.

So I applied for both and I got offered jobs from both on the same day.