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Sam Altman

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

We were talking about how you would know if a model were conscious or not.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

And I've heard many ideas thrown around, but he said one that I think is interesting.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

If you trained a model...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

on a data set that you were extremely careful to have no mentions of consciousness or anything close to it in the training process.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

Like not only was the word never there, but nothing about the sort of subjective experience of it or related concepts.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

And then you started talking to that model about here are some things that you weren't trained about.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

And for most of them, the model was like, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

But then you asked it, you sort of described the experience, the subjective experience of consciousness.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

And the model immediately responded, unlike the other questions.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

Yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

That would update me somewhat.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

I don't think consciousness is an emotion.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

But yes, if it knows- So I think there's many other tasks, tests like that, that we could look at too.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

I'm certainly willing to believe that

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

consciousness is somehow the fundamental substrate and we're all just in the dream or the simulation or whatever i think it's interesting how much sort of the silicon valley religion of the simulation has gotten close to like brahman and how little space there is between them um but from these very different directions so like maybe that's what's going on

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

But if it is like physical reality as we understand it and all of the rules of the game and what we think they are, then there's something.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

I still think it's something very strange.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

I think it's weird when people think it's like a big dunk that I say like I'm a little bit afraid and I think it'd be crazy not to be a little bit afraid.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

And I empathize with people who are a lot afraid.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 โ€“ Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

The current worries that I have are that