Sam Altman

How do you out-compete them?

I think there's going to be many AGIs in the world, so we don't have to out-compete everyone.

We're going to contribute one.

Other people are going to contribute some.

I think multiple AGIs in the world with some differences in how they're built and what they do and what they're focused on, I think that's good.

We have a very unusual structure, so we don't have this incentive to capture unlimited value.

I worry about the people who do, but hopefully it's all going to work out.

But we're

a weird org and we're good at resisting.

Like we have been a misunderstood and badly mocked org for a long time.

Like when we started, we like announced the org at the end of 2015 and said, we're going to work on AGI.

Like people thought we were batshit insane.

You know, like I, I remember at the time, a eminent AI scientist at a,

large industrial AI lab was like DMing individual reporters being like, you know, these people aren't very good and it's ridiculous to talk about AGI and I can't believe you're giving them time of day.

And it's like, that was the level of like pettiness and rancor in the field at a new group of people saying we're going to try to build AGI.

We don't get mocked as much now.

How did it stand?

We started as a nonprofit.

We learned early on that we were going to need far more capital than we were able to raise as a nonprofit.

Our nonprofit is still fully in charge.