Sam Altman

And I think in some sense, we shouldn't make too much of this like little thing.

You know that scene in Star Wars where one of the bad guys is like, don't be too, oh, I think it's Vader, is like, don't be too impressed with this technological terror you've created.

It's like nothing compared to the power of the force.

Yes.

I do feel that way about AI in some important sense, which is like, we shouldn't be too impressed with this.

Like the human spirit will see us through and is much bigger than any one technological revolution.

I mean, it's a beautiful message of hope.

I hope you're right, because I love the technology.

But it will be choppy.

No, you know what?

And the one thing I would leave with you, Sam Altman, as Time's CEO of the year and one of the people of the year, I think you'll continue to be that, especially in this role, because of how much impact…

open ai and ai itself are going to have on us one thing i would implore you to have is continue to remember that feeling you had when you were fired as you're creating a technology that's going to put many people in a similar position because i because i see you have that humanity in you and i hope as you create you'd constantly be thinking about that you know what i did saturday morning uh when i like early saturday morning when i couldn't sleep i wrote a

down what can i learn about this that will help me be better when other people go through a similar thing and blame me like i'm blaming the board right now and have you figured it out a lot of i mean there's a lot of useful like single lessons but the empathy i gained out of this whole experience and my like recompilation of values uh

for sure was a blessing in disguise, like it was at a painful cost, but I'm happy to have had the experience in that sense.

Well, Sam, thank you for the time.

Thank you.

Really appreciate it.

I hope, I hope we do chat in a year, um, about, you know, all the new advancements.

That'll be, you should definitely come do that.

That'll be a fun one.