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Sam Altman

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

Like we have been a misunderstood and badly mocked org for a long time.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

Like when we started, we like announced the org at the end of 2015 and said, we're going to work on AGI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

Like people thought we were batshit insane.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

You know, like I, I remember at the time, a eminent AI scientist at a,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

large industrial AI lab was like DMing individual reporters being like, you know, these people aren't very good and it's ridiculous to talk about AGI and I can't believe you're giving them time of day.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

And it's like, that was the level of like pettiness and rancor in the field at a new group of people saying we're going to try to build AGI.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

We don't get mocked as much now.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

How did it stand?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

We started as a nonprofit.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

We learned early on that we were going to need far more capital than we were able to raise as a nonprofit.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

Our nonprofit is still fully in charge.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

There is a subsidiary capped profit so that our investors and employees can earn a certain fixed return.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

And then beyond that, everything else flows to the nonprofit.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

And the nonprofit is like in voting control, lets us make a bunch of nonstandard decisions, can cancel equity, can do a whole bunch of other things, can let us merge with another org, protects us from making decisions that are not in any like shareholder's interest.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

So I think as a structure, it has been important to a lot of the decisions we've made.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

It was really like,

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

To do what we needed to go do, we had tried and failed enough to raise the money as a nonprofit.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

We didn't see a path forward there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

So we needed some of the benefits of capitalism, but not too much.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#367 – Sam Altman: OpenAI CEO on GPT-4, ChatGPT, and the Future of AI

I remember at the time someone said, you know, as a nonprofit, not enough will happen.