Sam Altman

And then the use of one of these models and the use of a nuclear weapon are like quite different things. And sort of the geopolitical implications are also quite different things. So I think to steelman the argument of people who say things like, you know, it's like nuclear weapons, I think what they mean is that it's It's extremely expensive and has extreme geopolitical consequences.

We don't know exactly what those are or how to think about them. But because we don't know exactly what they are, shouldn't we have like a principle of letting the government decide? And? I can imagine other governments at other times in history where we should be very thrilled about that outcome.

We don't know exactly what those are or how to think about them. But because we don't know exactly what they are, shouldn't we have like a principle of letting the government decide? And? I can imagine other governments at other times in history where we should be very thrilled about that outcome.

We don't know exactly what those are or how to think about them. But because we don't know exactly what they are, shouldn't we have like a principle of letting the government decide? And? I can imagine other governments at other times in history where we should be very thrilled about that outcome.

I think putting the current United States government in charge of developing AGI faster and better than our competitors would not likely go well. I think the decline in state capacity in this country is not a new observation but a mournful one.

I think putting the current United States government in charge of developing AGI faster and better than our competitors would not likely go well. I think the decline in state capacity in this country is not a new observation but a mournful one.

I think putting the current United States government in charge of developing AGI faster and better than our competitors would not likely go well. I think the decline in state capacity in this country is not a new observation but a mournful one.

I think the willingness... It's coming back a little bit, but for a long time, the willingness of the American public to be excited about future developments in science and technology has been gone. I sort of think it went away with the nuclear weapons, actually, if I had to pick one moment in time. There was sort of a weird few-decade hangover before there was the generational change.

I think the willingness... It's coming back a little bit, but for a long time, the willingness of the American public to be excited about future developments in science and technology has been gone. I sort of think it went away with the nuclear weapons, actually, if I had to pick one moment in time. There was sort of a weird few-decade hangover before there was the generational change.

I think the willingness... It's coming back a little bit, but for a long time, the willingness of the American public to be excited about future developments in science and technology has been gone. I sort of think it went away with the nuclear weapons, actually, if I had to pick one moment in time. There was sort of a weird few-decade hangover before there was the generational change.

But when the people who were young... when the bomb was dropped, kind of got older and in power. I don't think America ever embraced the excitement and belief in science and technology driving the world forward to the same degree as we used to. You can read these stories about what people like that used to do and how revered they were and how people believed that

But when the people who were young... when the bomb was dropped, kind of got older and in power. I don't think America ever embraced the excitement and belief in science and technology driving the world forward to the same degree as we used to. You can read these stories about what people like that used to do and how revered they were and how people believed that

But when the people who were young... when the bomb was dropped, kind of got older and in power. I don't think America ever embraced the excitement and belief in science and technology driving the world forward to the same degree as we used to. You can read these stories about what people like that used to do and how revered they were and how people believed that

scientific, technological progress more broadly was going to make the world better. That seems missing now. And I don't think it's because we don't have an individual who could do that. I think it's because the government doesn't want it and the public doesn't want it.

scientific, technological progress more broadly was going to make the world better. That seems missing now. And I don't think it's because we don't have an individual who could do that. I think it's because the government doesn't want it and the public doesn't want it.

scientific, technological progress more broadly was going to make the world better. That seems missing now. And I don't think it's because we don't have an individual who could do that. I think it's because the government doesn't want it and the public doesn't want it.

There's a huge cultural vibe shift and I think there's a very positive – there's positive momentum in many ways. I'm not sure that it exists for, hey, we think science is really important again and science is what's going to save us and solve all of our problems. Do you think that? Or do you think it's – like that's the one area where I haven't felt it.

There's a huge cultural vibe shift and I think there's a very positive – there's positive momentum in many ways. I'm not sure that it exists for, hey, we think science is really important again and science is what's going to save us and solve all of our problems. Do you think that? Or do you think it's – like that's the one area where I haven't felt it.

There's a huge cultural vibe shift and I think there's a very positive – there's positive momentum in many ways. I'm not sure that it exists for, hey, we think science is really important again and science is what's going to save us and solve all of our problems. Do you think that? Or do you think it's – like that's the one area where I haven't felt it.

As I said earlier, I think it is getting better even on – like I strongly agree with you on the kind of general shift towards excitement about growth and success and having the country and the economy do well. I do somewhat agree as I was saying earlier that I think – Even excitement about science is in a better place than it's not here.